Trump is running for president again

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bearister said:

Gen. John Kelly (Ret.) on tRump:

"What can I add that has not already been said?" Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. "A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.' A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France.

A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued. "A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

"There is nothing more that can be said," Kelly concluded. "God help us."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html
Obviously Kelly is the one disgruntled person who Trump ever worked with. I mean everyone has one person they just don't get along with for whatever reason right?

People love working with Trump and generally think he's like totally smart.


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*I bet Star Trek Boy there pops Ambien and Provigil like they are M & Ms
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Nikki Haley never had a chance against Trump. He's just too sharp. It's no wonder the GOP continues to be enthralled by this stable genius.

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Unit2Sucks said:

Nikki Haley never had a chance against Trump. He's just too sharp. It's no wonder the GOP continues to be enthralled by this stable genius.

Translation:

1. Nancy Pelosi turned down National Guard troops because the whole J6 thing was a Fed set up.
2. Niki Haley will never be president or vice president.
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bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Nikki Haley never had a chance against Trump. He's just too sharp. It's no wonder the GOP continues to be enthralled by this stable genius.

Translation:

1. Nancy Pelosi turned down National Guard troops because the whole J6 thing was a Fed set up.
2. Niki Haley will never be president or vice president.
#1 isn't true. #2 is probably true.
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Trump makes liberals cry. But why?
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Unit2Sucks said:

Nikki Haley never had a chance against Trump. He's just too sharp. It's no wonder the GOP continues to be enthralled by this stable genius.


I take it all back, Trump says he's smart and he's never lied before so I guess it must be true. The best part about this is while pretending to be smart he incorrectly says Ronny Jackson is now the white house doctor (and a congressman) and then repeats himself 5 seconds later. I think Haley should take him up on his offer to compare "aptitude" test results. Perhaps they can compete to see who can eat the most crayons.

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Nikki should challenge Trump to a public cognitive test. She'd trap Biden in it, too.

One would have to believe she'd win and that neither would agree to it.

That could be a winning move.
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He is literally decomposing.

Trump Slurs Through Incoherent Chunk of Speech-Biden Pounces


https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-slurs-his-way-through-incoherent-chunk-of-speech-biden-team-pounces/


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bearister said:

He is literally decomposing.

Trump Slurs Through Incoherent Chunk of Speech-Biden Pounces


https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-slurs-his-way-through-incoherent-chunk-of-speech-biden-team-pounces/





Seems pretty likely that Traitor Trump will dodge a debate with President Biden. Traitor Trump will blame it on Biden and Traitor Trump's cult members will follow suit. They always do.
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I can see both Biden and Trump having flashbacks to the Jon Lovitz SNL clip where he says during a presidential debate, "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy".
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Since Alec Baldwin is going to prison, SNL will be using Trump to play Trump as well as Baldwin.
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bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Nikki Haley never had a chance against Trump. He's just too sharp. It's no wonder the GOP continues to be enthralled by this stable genius.

Translation:

1. Nancy Pelosi turned down National Guard troops because the whole J6 thing was a Fed set up.
2. Niki Haley will never be president or vice president.

While the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (who had the same powers as Pelosi) sat there and did nothing.
You arent the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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bear2034 said:

Since Alec Baldwin is going to prison, SNL will be using Trump to play Trump as well as Baldwin.

Like tRump*, you cavalierly talk about your enemies going to prison. The small step you and he overlook is the jury system and that it takes a unanimous verdict to convict. Bet your pension plan on a hung jury or acquittal for Baldwin.

*Which is why tRump has to impose an authoritarian form of government so he can eliminate or neuter the judicial system so that he can imprison his enemies and set aside all the civil judgments that are ruining him financially.
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I think Trump will be able to pull off a pretty good Alec Baldwin impression.
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DiabloWags said:

bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Nikki Haley never had a chance against Trump. He's just too sharp. It's no wonder the GOP continues to be enthralled by this stable genius.

Translation:

1. Nancy Pelosi turned down National Guard troops because the whole J6 thing was a Fed set up.
2. Niki Haley will never be president or vice president.

While the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (who had the same powers as Pelosi) sat there and did nothing.
You arent the sharpest tool in the shed are you?

Are you making the claim that Mitch McConnell was in on this too?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4209104/posts
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"He's not the same guy." LOL, This guy pretending that Trump was sharp in 2016 is hilarious.


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bearister said:

bear2034 said:

Since Alec Baldwin is going to prison, SNL will be using Trump to play Trump as well as Baldwin.
Like tRump*, you cavalierly talk about your enemies going to prison
Thank goodness Dumbocrats never talk about how badly they need Trump to go to prison.

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tRump has been charged with 91 felony counts that are supported by sufficient evidence to clear the Preliminary Hearing stage to have him bound over for trial. tRump stands a real risk of being convicted, although I personally believe he will death threat one juror and get a hung jury.

Republican threats that this person or that person are going to jail are no more that nonsense unsupported by evidence (a term Republicans confuse with "allegation").

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Trump wins New Hampshire.

As a friendly reminder, in 2020 Joe Biden came in 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
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bear2034 said:

Trump wins New Hampshire.

As a friendly reminder, in 2020 Joe Biden came in 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
That shows how little Iowa and New Hampshire mean by the end of the primaries.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Trump wins New Hampshire.

As a friendly reminder, in 2020 Joe Biden came in 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
That shows how little Iowa and New Hampshire mean by the end of the primaries.


Do they mean less than California Republicans? Asking for a friend.
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82gradDLSdad said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Trump wins New Hampshire.

As a friendly reminder, in 2020 Joe Biden came in 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
That shows how little Iowa and New Hampshire mean by the end of the primaries.


Do they mean less than California Republicans? Asking for a friend.
Iowa has 40 Republican delegates, New Hampshire has 22 delegates and California has 169 delegates. Do the math.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Trump wins New Hampshire.

As a friendly reminder, in 2020 Joe Biden came in 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
That shows how little Iowa and New Hampshire mean by the end of the primaries.


Do they mean less than California Republicans? Asking for a friend.
Iowa has 40 Republican delegates, New Hampshire has 22 delegates and California has 169 delegates. Do the math.


I didn't study political math. Uh, I mean my friend didn't. Am I adding, subtracting, quadratic equations, derivatives? Help me out out. Uh, I mean my friend out.
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This will only be a surprise to MAGAts, but Trump appears to be toxic with independents. Haley won them by 22 points in NH yesterday.



This is consistent with the recent (still early) disastrous polling for Trump in Pennsylvania. Everyone is talking about the 8 points Biden is leading by, but he's crushing Trump with independents.



Trump did well with independents in 2016 (won by 1%), but lost by 9 in 2020. It looks like independents will come in even stronger against Trump in 2024 which means he has no chance of winning.
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Your talk of independent voters reminded me of Bill Maher's quote about the undecided voters in 2016:

"And that, in a nutshell, is America's celebrated, undecided voter: put on a pedestal by the media as if they were Hamlet in a think-tank, searching out every last bit of information, high-minded arbiters pouring over policy positions and matching them against their own philosophies. Please, they mostly fall into a category political scientists call 'low information voters,' otherwise known as 'dipsh@its."

Maher went on to point out that the Octa-Mom has publicly declared she is an undecided voter and that she does not know who Mitt Romney is. Kim Kardashian also announced she is an undecided voter."
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bearister said:

Your talk of independent voters reminded me of Bill Maher's quote about the undecided voters in 2016:

"And that, in a nutshell, is America's celebrated, undecided voter: put on a pedestal by the media as if they were Hamlet in a think-tank, searching out every last bit of information, high-minded arbiters pouring over policy positions and matching them against their own philosophies. Please, they mostly fall into a category political scientists call 'low information voters,' otherwise known as 'dipsh@its."

Maher went on to point out that the Octa-Mom has publicly declared she is an undecided voter and that she does not know who Mitt Romney is. Kim Kardashian also announced she is an undecided voter."

This is a good example of an undecided GOP voter. Doesn't exactly give me confidence in the electorate. Trump figured out that you don't win by reasoning with these people, you con and grift them. His problem is that there aren't enough people like this who are still falling for the con.



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"And trust me, the guy's a pig, he's a womanizer arrogant a-----e," Johnson said of Trump. "But I need somebody that's going to go in and lead, and I need somebody that's going to take care of the average guy."
"But is taking care of the average guy and breaking the system the same thing?" I said.
"Yes," he said. "Because they're all in it for themselves."
"And if you break the system, what does that look like?"
"Accountability," he said.
...

"Accountability is accountability. But they're throwing so much stuff at this guy, and it's almost like I'm rooting for him," he told me. "This is a whole system of government going after one man who, probably, I bet, right now, 85 million people want to be president."
"But accountability is accountability," I said.
"Accountability is accountability," he said.
"Whether it's Hunter Biden or Donald Trump," I said.
"But do I trust the system?" he said. "I don't."
"You're a veteran," I told him. "You are somebody who doesn't trust the system that in the broadest sense you served."
"I have no trust," he said.
"The system you served," I said again.
"That's right. I swore an oath," he said. "I believed in that oath."
"When did you stop believing?" I asked Ted Johnson.
"About when Trump became president," he answered.

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Liars, hypocrites, and the morons that vote for them.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Trump wins New Hampshire.

As a friendly reminder, in 2020 Joe Biden came in 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
That shows how little Iowa and New Hampshire mean by the end of the primaries.
Historically, they're important. 2020 was an anomaly.
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bearister said:

tRump has been charged with 91 felony counts that are supported by sufficient evidence to clear the Preliminary Hearing stage to have him bound over for trial. tRump stands a real risk of being convicted, although I personally believe he will death threat one juror and get a hung jury.

Republican threats that this person or that person are going to jail are no more that nonsense unsupported by evidence (a term Republicans confuse with "allegation").
It is almost inconceivable that anyone can beat 91 counts in 4 separate cases in 3-4 different jurisdictions. And these aren't normal cases for a defendant. The weakest case is in NYC, a horrible jury pool for Trump. The next most vulnerable case is in a liberal stronghold, Fulton County. Again, good luck with that jury. One of the Federal cases has a biased judge. And the other one is just your run of the mill "enough evidence exists to get past Prelim Hearings stage." Trump will be convicted of something somewhere. He cannot pardon himself from state convictions. I have no idea what Republican voters are thinking voting for a soon to be felon who's getting a free stay at the grey bar inn.
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Unit2Sucks said:

bearister said:

Your talk of independent voters reminded me of Bill Maher's quote about the undecided voters in 2016:

"And that, in a nutshell, is America's celebrated, undecided voter: put on a pedestal by the media as if they were Hamlet in a think-tank, searching out every last bit of information, high-minded arbiters pouring over policy positions and matching them against their own philosophies. Please, they mostly fall into a category political scientists call 'low information voters,' otherwise known as 'dipsh@its."

Maher went on to point out that the Octa-Mom has publicly declared she is an undecided voter and that she does not know who Mitt Romney is. Kim Kardashian also announced she is an undecided voter."

This is a good example of an undecided GOP voter. Doesn't exactly give me confidence in the electorate. Trump figured out that you don't win by reasoning with these people, you con and grift them. His problem is that there aren't enough people like this who are still falling for the con.



Quote:

"And trust me, the guy's a pig, he's a womanizer arrogant a-----e," Johnson said of Trump. "But I need somebody that's going to go in and lead, and I need somebody that's going to take care of the average guy."
"But is taking care of the average guy and breaking the system the same thing?" I said.
"Yes," he said. "Because they're all in it for themselves."
"And if you break the system, what does that look like?"
"Accountability," he said.
...

"Accountability is accountability. But they're throwing so much stuff at this guy, and it's almost like I'm rooting for him," he told me. "This is a whole system of government going after one man who, probably, I bet, right now, 85 million people want to be president."
"But accountability is accountability," I said.
"Accountability is accountability," he said.
"Whether it's Hunter Biden or Donald Trump," I said.
"But do I trust the system?" he said. "I don't."
"You're a veteran," I told him. "You are somebody who doesn't trust the system that in the broadest sense you served."
"I have no trust," he said.
"The system you served," I said again.
"That's right. I swore an oath," he said. "I believed in that oath."
"When did you stop believing?" I asked Ted Johnson.
"About when Trump became president," he answered.

I agree with this guy that the system is broken and needs to be exposed / torn down. I would laugh at those who still believe in it, except it's so tragic. The problem is a) Trump is not to be trusted to even try to tear it down for right reasons - he's always self motivated, which ironically makes him fundamentally the same as that which would be torn down; and b) we are seeing right in front of our eyes that one man can't do it. "The system" wins…and this will be proven when Trump is seen being walked into a prison.
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tequila4kapp said:

bearister said:

tRump has been charged with 91 felony counts that are supported by sufficient evidence to clear the Preliminary Hearing stage to have him bound over for trial. tRump stands a real risk of being convicted, although I personally believe he will death threat one juror and get a hung jury.

Republican threats that this person or that person are going to jail are no more that nonsense unsupported by evidence (a term Republicans confuse with "allegation").
It is almost inconceivable that anyone can beat 91 counts in 4 separate cases in 3-4 different jurisdictions. And these aren't normal cases for a defendant. The weakest case is in NYC, a horrible jury pool for Trump. The next most vulnerable case is in a liberal stronghold, Fulton County. Again, good luck with that jury. One of the Federal cases has a biased judge. And the other one is just your run of the mill "enough evidence exists to get past Prelim Hearings stage." Trump will be convicted of something somewhere. He cannot pardon himself from state convictions. I have no idea what Republican voters are thinking voting for a soon to be felon who's getting a free stay at the grey bar inn.
I just want to address your last point. There is zero chance that Trump spends even a single day in a jail cell. When you are a former president, conviction means house arrest at best. Even though he's got a boiled onion for a brain, he simply has had too much exposure to classified and sensitive material to put him in prison. Not to mention the fact that he's got secret service protection.

I understand that he's got no filter, doesn't understand opsec and can't stop himself from divulging any secrets he knows of (in addition to making others up) when he's at the dessert buffett at Mar a Lago, his seaside resort that is lousy with foreign spies, but unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it.

His lawyers are generally creeps and the best ones all stop working with him once they learn the hard way how bad he is, but even the parking ticket losers he has will be able to get him a house arrest sentence over a prison stay. The best would be if he were in a purpose built prison in the bowels of the white house where people could gawk at him on the white house tour (and where he would be in a sound proof room so no one could hear him decompose slowly word by word.
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tequila4kapp said:

bearister said:

tRump has been charged with 91 felony counts that are supported by sufficient evidence to clear the Preliminary Hearing stage to have him bound over for trial. tRump stands a real risk of being convicted, although I personally believe he will death threat one juror and get a hung jury.

Republican threats that this person or that person are going to jail are no more that nonsense unsupported by evidence (a term Republicans confuse with "allegation").
It is almost inconceivable that anyone can beat 91 counts in 4 separate cases in 3-4 different jurisdictions. And these aren't normal cases for a defendant. The weakest case is in NYC, a horrible jury pool for Trump. The next most vulnerable case is in a liberal stronghold, Fulton County. Again, good luck with that jury. One of the Federal cases has a biased judge. And the other one is just your run of the mill "enough evidence exists to get past Prelim Hearings stage." Trump will be convicted of something somewhere. He cannot pardon himself from state convictions. I have no idea what Republican voters are thinking voting for a soon to be felon who's getting a free stay at the grey bar inn.

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tequila4kapp said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearister said:

Your talk of independent voters reminded me of Bill Maher's quote about the undecided voters in 2016:

"And that, in a nutshell, is America's celebrated, undecided voter: put on a pedestal by the media as if they were Hamlet in a think-tank, searching out every last bit of information, high-minded arbiters pouring over policy positions and matching them against their own philosophies. Please, they mostly fall into a category political scientists call 'low information voters,' otherwise known as 'dipsh@its."

Maher went on to point out that the Octa-Mom has publicly declared she is an undecided voter and that she does not know who Mitt Romney is. Kim Kardashian also announced she is an undecided voter."

This is a good example of an undecided GOP voter. Doesn't exactly give me confidence in the electorate. Trump figured out that you don't win by reasoning with these people, you con and grift them. His problem is that there aren't enough people like this who are still falling for the con.



Quote:

"And trust me, the guy's a pig, he's a womanizer arrogant a-----e," Johnson said of Trump. "But I need somebody that's going to go in and lead, and I need somebody that's going to take care of the average guy."
"But is taking care of the average guy and breaking the system the same thing?" I said.
"Yes," he said. "Because they're all in it for themselves."
"And if you break the system, what does that look like?"
"Accountability," he said.
...

"Accountability is accountability. But they're throwing so much stuff at this guy, and it's almost like I'm rooting for him," he told me. "This is a whole system of government going after one man who, probably, I bet, right now, 85 million people want to be president."
"But accountability is accountability," I said.
"Accountability is accountability," he said.
"Whether it's Hunter Biden or Donald Trump," I said.
"But do I trust the system?" he said. "I don't."
"You're a veteran," I told him. "You are somebody who doesn't trust the system that in the broadest sense you served."
"I have no trust," he said.
"The system you served," I said again.
"That's right. I swore an oath," he said. "I believed in that oath."
"When did you stop believing?" I asked Ted Johnson.
"About when Trump became president," he answered.

I agree with this guy that the system is broken and needs to be exposed / torn down. I would laugh at those who still believe in it, except it's so tragic. The problem is a) Trump is not to be trusted to even try to tear it down for right reasons - he's always self motivated, which ironically makes him fundamentally the same as that which would be torn down; and b) we are seeing right in front of our eyes that one man can't do it. "The system" wins…and this will be proven when Trump is seen being walked into a prison.

What I think is on the mind of many a Trump voter:

- He will be convicted of something: "Good! So what? Screw it! Being President from prison...I like it!"
- He's always self-motivated: "We are all self-motivated. At least he's honest about it! Screw it!"

It's what we've come to: Trump, the billionaire New Yorker, resonates with the disenfranchised American.
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Big C said:

tequila4kapp said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearister said:

Your talk of independent voters reminded me of Bill Maher's quote about the undecided voters in 2016:

"And that, in a nutshell, is America's celebrated, undecided voter: put on a pedestal by the media as if they were Hamlet in a think-tank, searching out every last bit of information, high-minded arbiters pouring over policy positions and matching them against their own philosophies. Please, they mostly fall into a category political scientists call 'low information voters,' otherwise known as 'dipsh@its."

Maher went on to point out that the Octa-Mom has publicly declared she is an undecided voter and that she does not know who Mitt Romney is. Kim Kardashian also announced she is an undecided voter."

This is a good example of an undecided GOP voter. Doesn't exactly give me confidence in the electorate. Trump figured out that you don't win by reasoning with these people, you con and grift them. His problem is that there aren't enough people like this who are still falling for the con.



Quote:

"And trust me, the guy's a pig, he's a womanizer arrogant a-----e," Johnson said of Trump. "But I need somebody that's going to go in and lead, and I need somebody that's going to take care of the average guy."
"But is taking care of the average guy and breaking the system the same thing?" I said.
"Yes," he said. "Because they're all in it for themselves."
"And if you break the system, what does that look like?"
"Accountability," he said.
...

"Accountability is accountability. But they're throwing so much stuff at this guy, and it's almost like I'm rooting for him," he told me. "This is a whole system of government going after one man who, probably, I bet, right now, 85 million people want to be president."
"But accountability is accountability," I said.
"Accountability is accountability," he said.
"Whether it's Hunter Biden or Donald Trump," I said.
"But do I trust the system?" he said. "I don't."
"You're a veteran," I told him. "You are somebody who doesn't trust the system that in the broadest sense you served."
"I have no trust," he said.
"The system you served," I said again.
"That's right. I swore an oath," he said. "I believed in that oath."
"When did you stop believing?" I asked Ted Johnson.
"About when Trump became president," he answered.

I agree with this guy that the system is broken and needs to be exposed / torn down. I would laugh at those who still believe in it, except it's so tragic. The problem is a) Trump is not to be trusted to even try to tear it down for right reasons - he's always self motivated, which ironically makes him fundamentally the same as that which would be torn down; and b) we are seeing right in front of our eyes that one man can't do it. "The system" wins…and this will be proven when Trump is seen being walked into a prison.

What I think is on the mind of many a Trump voter:

- He will be convicted of something: "Good! So what? Screw it! Being President from prison...I like it!"
- He's always self-motivated: "We are all self-motivated. At least he's honest about it! Screw it!"

It's what we've come to: Trump, the billionaire New Yorker, resonates with the disenfranchised American.


I know very 'franchised' Americans who are saying '**** it' I'm voting for Trump. There is almost nothing he can do or have done to him that will change their minds. It is incredible. And to be such a knucklehead (not you, Big C) to just name call these folks completely misses how off the rails our system is.
 
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