It's hard to kill an idea. Israel's tactics just gave birth to several thousand more fanatics that several years from now will be committing terror attacks throughout Europe and America. They have a long timeline.

I am against terrorism in any form, but missing from this discussion is any mention of what is the nature of the injustice that gives rise to this type of hatred. Margaret Thatcher overlooked the same issue when dealing with the IRA, and murderous b@$tards they were.

Israel has every right to defend itself but IMHO they crossed the line. For those who disagree, do you have a line? Is it 50k dead? 100k? 500k? 1M? No line?

I also think Israel needs to be better than this:

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity - Amnesty International


https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

For those countries that say Israel has no right to exist and they intend to execute a strategy to that effect:
Number 1, they are wrong; and Number 2, there are a few missiles on German made submarines circling the oceans that are ready to turn your country into a glass bowl*

*At least until AI figures out a way to track subs and negate them.

Progress in detection tech could render submarines useless by the 2050s. What does it mean for the AUKUS pact?


https://theconversation.com/progress-in-detection-tech-could-render-submarines-useless-by-the-2050s-what-does-it-mean-for-the-aukus-pact-201187
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tequila4kapp said:

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Good post.
The neighboring countries largely care about the Palestinian people but not Hamas / PA / PLO. Those entities have existed in numerous of the countries and been removed. Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria (I think), Kuwait, etc. The populations of the neighboring countries are very sympathetic to the Palestinians and hate Jews/Israel; their governments have the Iran and Shiite/Sunni concerns. It's a complex region.

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I disagree. I don't think the neighboring countries really care about the Palestinian people. In the past, the cared about having the Palestinian issue for a variety of geopolitical reason and some domestic political dynamics. Those countries care about their own interests which now dictate closer ties with Israel because of the Shia threat. They've also concluded that the corrupt and culturally immoral Palestinian leadership (lead by Hamas) is toxic and not worth investing in.

bearister said:

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It's hard to kill an idea. Israel's tactics just gave birth to several thousand more fanatics that several years from now will be committing terror attacks throughout Europe and America. They have a long timeline.

I am against terrorism in any form, but missing from this discussion is any mention of what is the nature of the injustice that gives rise to this type of hatred. Margaret Thatcher overlooked the same issue when dealing with the IRA, and murderous b@$tards they were.

Israel has every right to defend itself but IMHO they crossed the line. For those who disagree, do you have a line? Is it 50k dead? 100k? 500k? 1M? No line?

I also think Israel needs to be better than this:

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity - Amnesty International


https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

For those countries that say Israel has no right to exist and they intend to execute a strategy to that effect:
Number 1, they are wrong; and Number 2, there are a few missiles on German made submarines circling the oceans that are ready to turn your country into a glass bowl*

*At least until AI figures out a way to track subs and negate them.

Progress in detection tech could render submarines useless by the 2050s. What does it mean for the AUKUS pact?


https://theconversation.com/progress-in-detection-tech-could-render-submarines-useless-by-the-2050s-what-does-it-mean-for-the-aukus-pact-201187
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The line has nothing to do with the number of people killed. You are constructing a fallacy. The line is - what is required to stop Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran from attacking and menacing Israel. Israel is permitted and arguably required to do whatever is required to stop that.

By your metric, the US was at fault in WWII because we killed too many Germans and Japanese civilians (in proportion to US civilian losses).

The statement bolded above is laughable. After Hiroshima, did the US ask that question and seek to negotiate with Japan regarding the "perceived injustices"? After 9/11, did the US negotiate with the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden to discuss their "perceived injustices"? OBL wanted the US out of the middle east (particularly Saudi). Should the US have just capitulated? And, in the case of Israel, what the "perceived injustice" is the the existence of Israel. Should Israel just agree not to exist? What concessions would you have them make? And with whom would you have Israel negotiate?

You have lost all moral compass. The reason for the Israeli restrictions on Palestinians in West Bank/Gaza is the permanent terrorism emanating from those places. The Intifadas and more recently 10/7 show that. Any other country would impose the exact same security measures as Israel has vis-a-vis an adjacent territory controlled by groups like Hamas and with the presence of many other terrorist groups. And in Israel, Palestinian/Arab Israelis have full rights of citizenship including voting and political representation - the furthest thing from apartheid.

Speaking of which - spare me the Amnesty International "reports." They have nothing to say about real apartheid in places like Gaza/Lebanon/Syria or any number of other countries (including the Vatican). They only have things to say about Israel in the "occupied territories." There are Muslim atrocities throughout the world that AI gives virtually no attention to. Like you, AI holds Israel to a different standard than any other country which is one of the definitions of antisemitism.

Iran is the biggest problem here. Iran has for 45 years EXPRESSLY sought to end the existence of the "Zionist entity" - again, that is the "perceived grievance." Iran has supported Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, and any other anti-Israel group they could find. It has been a soft/cold war perpetuated by Iran - not Israel. Yet here you are blaming Israel for fighting back and suggesting Israel should address the perceived grievances of Iran and its proxies. It is idiotic.

One final point - the Palestinians and Lebanese civilians are also victims of Iran. As recent events have shown, the Mullahs will fight until the last dead Palestinian and Lebanese. If you really cared about these people, you'd be less focusses on Israel and more focused on countering Iran (and Biden/Harris/Obama who propped Iran up in a failed policy that defies explanation).

BearGoggles said:

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bearister said:

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It's hard to kill an idea. Israel's tactics just gave birth to several thousand more fanatics that several years from now will be committing terror attacks throughout Europe and America. They have a long timeline.

I am against terrorism in any form, but missing from this discussion is any mention of what is the nature of the injustice that gives rise to this type of hatred. Margaret Thatcher overlooked the same issue when dealing with the IRA, and murderous b@$tards they were.

Israel has every right to defend itself but IMHO they crossed the line. For those who disagree, do you have a line? Is it 50k dead? 100k? 500k? 1M? No line?

I also think Israel needs to be better than this:

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity - Amnesty International


https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

For those countries that say Israel has no right to exist and they intend to execute a strategy to that effect:
Number 1, they are wrong; and Number 2, there are a few missiles on German made submarines circling the oceans that are ready to turn your country into a glass bowl*

*At least until AI figures out a way to track subs and negate them.

Progress in detection tech could render submarines useless by the 2050s. What does it mean for the AUKUS pact?


https://theconversation.com/progress-in-detection-tech-could-render-submarines-useless-by-the-2050s-what-does-it-mean-for-the-aukus-pact-201187
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The line has nothing to do with the number of people killed. You are constructing a fallacy. The line is - what is required to stop Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran from attacking and menacing Israel. Israel is permitted and arguably required to do whatever is required to stop that.

By your metric, the US was at fault in WWII because we killed too many Germans and Japanese civilians (in proportion to US civilian losses).

The statement bolded above is laughable. After Hiroshima, did the US ask that question and seek to negotiate with Japan regarding the "perceived injustices"? After 9/11, did the US negotiate with the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden to discuss their "perceived injustices"? OBL wanted the US out of the middle east (particularly Saudi). Should the US have just capitulated? And, in the case of Israel, what the "perceived injustice" is the the existence of Israel. Should Israel just agree not to exist? What concessions would you have them make? And with whom would you have Israel negotiate?

You have lost all moral compass. The reason for the Israeli restrictions on Palestinians in West Bank/Gaza is the permanent terrorism emanating from those places. The Intifadas and more recently 10/7 show that. Any other country would impose the exact same security measures as Israel has vis-a-vis an adjacent territory controlled by groups like Hamas and with the presence of many other terrorist groups. And in Israel, Palestinian/Arab Israelis have full rights of citizenship including voting and political representation - the furthest thing from apartheid.

Speaking of which - spare me the Amnesty International "reports." They have nothing to say about real apartheid in places like Gaza/Lebanon/Syria or any number of other countries (including the Vatican). They only have things to say about Israel in the "occupied territories." There are Muslim atrocities throughout the world that AI gives virtually no attention to. Like you, AI holds Israel to a different standard than any other country which is one of the definitions of antisemitism.

Iran is the biggest problem here. Iran has for 45 years EXPRESSLY sought to end the existence of the "Zionist entity" - again, that is the "perceived grievance." Iran has supported Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, and any other anti-Israel group they could find. It has been a soft/cold war perpetuated by Iran - not Israel. Yet here you are blaming Israel for fighting back and suggesting Israel should address the perceived grievances of Iran and its proxies. It is idiotic.

One final point - the Palestinians and Lebanese civilians are also victims of Iran. As recent events have shown, the Mullahs will fight until the last dead Palestinian and Lebanese. If you really cared about these people, you'd be less focusses on Israel and more focused on countering Iran (and Biden/Harris/Obama who propped Iran up in a failed policy that defies explanation).

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Nearly everything you wrote here boils down to "hasbara", or pro-Israel propaganda.

Israel is an apartheid state, according to many neutral observers like Carter, Bishop Tutu or Mearsheimer and Sachs. The latter two have also stated unequivocally that Israel is currently conducting a genocide on the Palestinians.

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇵🇸 Prof Mearsheimer explains why he changed his mind on the Gaza war, and now says it’s a genocide by Israel.

Watch and listen pic.twitter.com/maXN1Lpf3L

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) May 20, 2024

Israel has been engaged in a long ethnic cleansing project that has substantially accelerated the last year, they intend to take over northern Gaza and further concentrate its inhabitants in an even smaller area. They covet their land and offshore gas resources.

Israel today is run by religious fanatics who view the whole Levant, entire swath of land between the Nile and Euphrates. as their God-given land, and its inhabitants as lesser humans that need to be cleared out.

Israel is the only country in the world that doesn't have defined borders, because it is an ongoing expansionary project.

An image of an Israeli soldier's uniform with a patch of the map of 'Greater Israel' has been circulating online. Far-right Israelis also openly express their territorial desires.

Here the long-term ambitions of the supporters of 'Greater Israel' are explained pic.twitter.com/sNNs4ypVh3

— TRT World (@trtworld) June 19, 2024

Your video with the necessary subtitles is now complete. For updates, keep following @TranslateMom. In a hurry? Use https://t.co/DZu6VuHAMi for translations. pic.twitter.com/sYlpYwRtXk

— TranslateMom (@TranslateMom) January 9, 2024

Bush/Cheney are exclusively responsible for Iran's ascendancy when they needlessly destroyed the only effective counterweight in the region with a pretextual invasion.

Cal88 wrote:
"They [Israel] covet their land and offshore gas resources."

As do tRump/Kushner who have both commented on the development potential of beachfront properties in Gaza and Lebanon. Both will be getting their beaks soaking wet in that action at the earliest opportunity and Bibi will get a generous cut.

Yes indeed, Kushner did mention waterfront developments in Gaza, creepy. Kushner's quid pro quo funding schemes from Gulf sheikdoms while on official diplomatic missions there is illegal and a bona fide line of prosecution on Trump.

Wish you'd also call out the Biden clan's financial involvement in Ukraine.

"Wish you'd also call out the Biden clan's financial involvement in Ukraine."

Provide a source more credible than Catturd, Amuse, Substack hacks, and all the other ridiculous sources the Right Wing trolls on this site provide links to and I will read and digest. No need for anything on Hunter. I presume it's true.


BTW, never was a Biden fan. He gift wrapped Clarence Thomas and gave him to this country as a "gift until Thomas' death" because he was too weak to allow a mountain of corroborating evidence into the Confirmation Hearing which would have relegated that guy to the dustbin of history.

bearister said:

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"Wish you'd also call out the Biden clan's financial involvement in Ukraine."

Provide a source more credible than Catturd, Amuse, Substack hacks, and all the other ridiculous sources the Right Wing trolls on this site provide links to and I will read and digest. No need for anything on Hunter. I presume it's true.


BTW, never was a Biden fan. He gift wrapped Clarence Thomas and gave him to this country as a "gift until Thomas' death" because he was too weak to allow a mountain of corroborating evidence into the Confirmation Hearing which would have relegated that guy to the dustbin of history.

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Did Joe Biden interfere in Ukraine to crush an investigation into his family's corruption?

Two damning pieces of evidence:

1. In 2018, Biden boasted that he got Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor investigating Burisma corruption, fired and replaced with someone more "solid."👇 pic.twitter.com/hdm9xGCSgu

— System Update (@SystemUpdate_) August 9, 2023

Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin:
After 2014, "all government appointments were made in agreement with Washington" as "they believed that Ukraine was their fiefdom". Joe Biden fired Shokin once Shokin investigated Hunter Biden's role in Burismahttps://t.co/Iqmjta0lmj pic.twitter.com/SfLAS6rgrD

— Glenn Diesen (@Glenn_Diesen) August 9, 2023

“Former Ukranian Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin is accusing Joe and Hunter Biden of 'corruption' - saying they accepted large money 'bribes' from Burisma and were behind his firing.” pic.twitter.com/vr9UpsVkB2

— senore_amore (@SenoreAmore) August 26, 2023

There are articles from multiple sources on this but it's easier to use Wikipedia and read the citation notes:
" A joint investigation by two Republican Senate committees released in September 2020 found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. A sweeping Republican House committee investigation of the Biden family has found no wrongdoing by December 2023.[1]

BidenUkraine conspiracy theory - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspiracy_theory

Corruption? In light of lawfare 2024, this is rich, even for you. High tech lynching. Figures that the man you hate more than anyone except Trump is the black conservative. So predictable.

Lawfare only works if you are dumb enough to actually commit the crime and there is enough evidence for a unanimous jury to convict you.

Are you against the jury system? tRump is when it involves filing unsupported criminal charges against his enemies. He has expressed a preference for military tribunals.
I think he prefers juries for his own cases but he needs lawyers that don't f@uck up and waive his right to a jury.

*" And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. …. U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree."
-Clarence Thomas*
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/clarencethomashightechlynching.htm
*Playing the role of the righteous Black man.

Elica brilliantly destroys the mentally challenged leftist ideology of supporting terrorist movments under the guise of liberation. A lot of left wing American academia is nothing more than shilling for terror.

The mental gymnastics, reverse causality, and revisionist history that far leftists engage in to normalize jihad is no accident, and I’m no longer pretending that it is pic.twitter.com/mUXfjQrw1u

— Elica Le Bon الیکا‌ ل بن (@elicalebon) October 14, 2024

bearister said:

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Bush/Cheney are exclusively responsible for Iran's ascendancy when they needlessly destroyed the only effective counterweight in the region with a pretextual invasion.

Cal88 wrote:
"They [Israel] covet their land and offshore gas resources."

As do tRump/Kushner who have both commented on the development potential of beachfront properties in Gaza and Lebanon. Both will be getting their beaks soaking wet in that action at the earliest opportunity and Bibi will get a generous cut.

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You are really discrediting and revealing yourself with this one.

Bush/Cheney did empower Iran by weakening Iraq (and empowering the Shia w/i Iraq). But exclusively? Did history end in 2008? Because I can point to a Billions of things ($$) Obama/Biden/Harris did to empower Iran that were much more impactful to the current situation.

In terms of Israel "coveting" Gaza and its resources, that is both preposterous and laughable. Israel left Gaza. It didn't have to. Israel has its own beaches and resorts. It also has its own gas resources which are greater than Gaza's.

In June 2023, it appeared there was finally a pathway for the Palestinians to develop their natural gas rights after 20+ years of disputes and political concerns. But then Hamas decided 10/7 was more important than securing economic prosperity and energy independence. Just another example of Hamas choosing to spend money on war and terrorism rather than improving the lives of Palestinians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Marine

After adopting Cal88's nonsense propaganda posts in making the above claims, just a few posts later you acknowledge how unreliable his "sources" are. You reject them for Ukraine, but accept them for Israel?

Its remarkable that your infirm mind has managed to intertwine your antisemitism with your TDS to somehow make these weird allegations about Israel and Trump/Kushner. This is bat poop crazy and supported only by the delusions in your paranoid head.

bearister said:

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Lawfare only works if you are dumb enough to actually commit the crime and there is enough evidence for a unanimous jury to convict you.

Are you against the jury system? tRump is when it involves filing unsupported criminal charges against his enemies. He has expressed a preference for military tribunals.
I think he prefers juries for his own cases but he needs lawyers that don't f@uck up and waive his right to a jury.

*" And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. …. U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree."
-Clarence Thomas*
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/clarencethomashightechlynching.htm
*Playing the role of the righteous Black man.

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You're an attorney Do you actually believe this?

The NY state court proceedings were a mockery, particular because partisan judges hated Trump. The DC judges were not much better. Trump has already won all of his appeals (at least the initial appeals) and is going to win the NY cases on appeal . . . but the Lawfare will still have worked in terms of affecting the election and preventing him from campaigning (not to mention the financial costs).

Part of the point of the Lawfare is to punish your opponents even when they're innocent. They are financially ruined, which sends a powerful message to your other political opponents.

If Trump wins and he decides to do what Biden and the dems have done (i.e., pursue cases against his political opponents, often using novel theories of liability that don't hold up on appeal), I suspect you'll be singing a different tune. Biden and his family will be the first targets (FARA). Perhaps Kamala's family too since there are rumors her brother in law is dirty.

BearGoggles said:

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bearister said:

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Bush/Cheney are exclusively responsible for Iran's ascendancy when they needlessly destroyed the only effective counterweight in the region with a pretextual invasion.

Cal88 wrote:
"They [Israel] covet their land and offshore gas resources."

As do tRump/Kushner who have both commented on the development potential of beachfront properties in Gaza and Lebanon. Both will be getting their beaks soaking wet in that action at the earliest opportunity and Bibi will get a generous cut.

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You are really discrediting and revealing yourself with this one.

Bush/Cheney did empower Iran by weakening Iraq (and empowering the Shia w/i Iraq). But exclusively? Did history end in 2008? Because I can point to a Billions of things ($$) Obama/Biden/Harris did to empower Iran that were much more impactful to the current situation.

In terms of Israel "coveting" Gaza and its resources, that is both preposterous and laughable. Israel left Gaza. It didn't have to. Israel has its own beaches and resorts. It also has its own gas resources which are greater than Gaza's.

In June 2023, it appeared there was finally a pathway for the Palestinians to develop their natural gas rights after 20+ years of disputes and political concerns. But then Hamas decided 10/7 was more important than securing economic prosperity and energy independence. Just another example of Hamas choosing to spend money on war and terrorism rather than improving the lives of Palestinians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Marine

After adopting Cal88's nonsense propaganda posts in making the above claims, just a few posts later you acknowledge how unreliable his "sources" are. You reject them for Ukraine, but accept them for Israel?

Its remarkable that your infirm mind has managed to intertwine your antisemitism with your TDS to somehow make these weird allegations about Israel and Trump/Kushner. This is bat poop crazy and supported only by the delusions in your paranoid head.

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You wouldn't have resorted to those kinds of aggressive, over-the-top invectives if what I've said wasn't true, truth hurts...

From the horse's mouth:

Jared Kushner salivates at Gaza's waterfront property, then urges Israel to “finish the job.” @MikoPeled, an Israeli general’s son turned Palestine activist says this chilling rhetoric echoes Hitler’s “final solution.”pic.twitter.com/830bvfMITg

— BreakThrough News (@BTnewsroom) March 26, 2024

Israel has been bombing Gaza for decades now, you want to portray Israel as the victim, which works for people who are grossly unfamiliar with the region, an unfortunately large segment of the public, but that is once again very far from the truth.

when Israel regularly "mowed the lawn" in Gaza, a zionist euphemism for going on killing sprees against the Palestinian population:

pic.twitter.com/aRB2wqq0Rv

— Norman Finkelstein (@normfinkelstein) November 22, 2023

This is before October 7 2023:

israel has just begun an all-out assault on gaza. this is part of their strategy: to massacre palestinians in gaza every few years as part of what they call "mowing the lawn". here norman finkelstein talks about the israeli regime's last campaign of mass slaughter and destruction pic.twitter.com/0aVhcpSCJ5

— ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) May 13, 2021

Chomsky on the recent history of Gaza:

“Gaza is a miserable prison and a punching bag for Israel. When they feel like it they do what they call ‘mowing the lawn’: let’s bomb and kill lots of civilians and hit the hospitals.”

Noam Chomsky to me last summer just weeks before he fell very ill👇pic.twitter.com/HaAEv2KtaY

— Matt Kennard (@kennardmatt) September 1, 2024

Israel is taking a beating on the front in Lebanon, their incursions having been stymied, and now they're also taking losses behind the frontlines as Hezbollah hit Israeli army barracks in Haifa and elsewhere:

🇮🇱🇱🇧#BREAKING: Fatalities and over 30 injured in a Hezbollah kamikaze drone strike on an IDF base in Haifa.

Hezbollah drones bypassed Israeli air defenses; no sirens sounded. pic.twitter.com/Y8VxYMqafs

— Breaking News (@PlanetReportHQ) October 13, 2024

67 israeli soldiers injured in a drone attack on an israeli military base in Haifa, at least 39 killed, 6 are critical — 50 ambulances on the scene pic.twitter.com/Dvb4qtkJiP

— Sarah Wilkinson (@swilkinsonbc) October 13, 2024

So they have been lashing out on civilians in Gaza, ratcheting up their level of violence on the population from insane to bat**** genocidal:

🇵🇸🇮🇱 In case it was unclear:

1) This is the yard of the Al Aqsa hospital
2) These are patience connected to life supporting medical machines
3) They’re burning alive and can’t get away pic.twitter.com/EyANeqkmee

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) October 14, 2024

Note that Hezbollah has been exclusively targeting military sites, while Israel has been levelling densely populated city blocks in Lebanon, killing several thousand civilians already. It's as if the body count in Gaza wasn't enough for them.

While Israel is bombing and killing civilians in Northern Lebanon James Paterson is still holding the indefensible line about 'antisemitism' #insiders. What a degenerate disloyal feckless grub he is. pic.twitter.com/oS5DiqijIE

— Liam the Trekky. Israel murders children (@shootin4love) October 12, 2024

Cal88 said:

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Israel is taking a beating on the front in Lebanon, their incursions having been stymied, and now they're also taking losses behind the frontlines as Hezbollah hit Israeli army barracks in Haifa and elsewhere:

🇮🇱🇱🇧#BREAKING: Fatalities and over 30 injured in a Hezbollah kamikaze drone strike on an IDF base in Haifa.

Hezbollah drones bypassed Israeli air defenses; no sirens sounded. pic.twitter.com/Y8VxYMqafs

— Breaking News (@PlanetReportHQ) October 13, 2024

67 israeli soldiers injured in a drone attack on an israeli military base in Haifa, at least 39 killed, 6 are critical — 50 ambulances on the scene pic.twitter.com/Dvb4qtkJiP

— Sarah Wilkinson (@swilkinsonbc) October 13, 2024

So they have been lashing out on civilians in Gaza, ratcheting up their level of violence on the population from insane to bat**** genocidal:

🇵🇸🇮🇱 In case it was unclear:

1) This is the yard of the Al Aqsa hospital
2) These are patience connected to life supporting medical machines
3) They’re burning alive and can’t get away pic.twitter.com/EyANeqkmee

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) October 14, 2024

Note that Hezbollah has been exclusively targeting military sites, while Israel has been levelling densely populated city blocks in Lebanon, killing several thousand civilians already. It's as if the body count in Gaza wasn't enough for them.

While Israel is bombing and killing civilians in Northern Lebanon James Paterson is still holding the indefensible line about 'antisemitism' #insiders. What a degenerate disloyal feckless grub he is. pic.twitter.com/oS5DiqijIE

— Liam the Trekky. Israel murders children (@shootin4love) October 12, 2024

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Does Hezbollah have identified military barracks that can be targeted or is their military mingled with their population?

oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Israel is taking a beating on the front in Lebanon, their incursions having been stymied, and now they're also taking losses behind the frontlines as Hezbollah hit Israeli army barracks in Haifa and elsewhere:

🇮🇱🇱🇧#BREAKING: Fatalities and over 30 injured in a Hezbollah kamikaze drone strike on an IDF base in Haifa.

Hezbollah drones bypassed Israeli air defenses; no sirens sounded. pic.twitter.com/Y8VxYMqafs

— Breaking News (@PlanetReportHQ) October 13, 2024

67 israeli soldiers injured in a drone attack on an israeli military base in Haifa, at least 39 killed, 6 are critical — 50 ambulances on the scene pic.twitter.com/Dvb4qtkJiP

— Sarah Wilkinson (@swilkinsonbc) October 13, 2024

So they have been lashing out on civilians in Gaza, ratcheting up their level of violence on the population from insane to bat**** genocidal:

🇵🇸🇮🇱 In case it was unclear:

1) This is the yard of the Al Aqsa hospital
2) These are patience connected to life supporting medical machines
3) They’re burning alive and can’t get away pic.twitter.com/EyANeqkmee

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) October 14, 2024

Note that Hezbollah has been exclusively targeting military sites, while Israel has been levelling densely populated city blocks in Lebanon, killing several thousand civilians already. It's as if the body count in Gaza wasn't enough for them.

While Israel is bombing and killing civilians in Northern Lebanon James Paterson is still holding the indefensible line about 'antisemitism' #insiders. What a degenerate disloyal feckless grub he is. pic.twitter.com/oS5DiqijIE

— Liam the Trekky. Israel murders children (@shootin4love) October 12, 2024

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Does Hezbollah have identified military barracks that can be targeted or is their military mingled with their population?

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They have units stationed in southern Lebanon that are currently fighting Israeli troops "straight up".

I tell you where Hezbollah isn't in Lebanon, they aren't in churches or fire stations, or any of the 100+ first aid workers that have been bombed so far by Israel.

BREAKING:

Israel just dropped bombs on a church in South Lebanon, killing 4 Lebanese civilians.

In what universe is this considered “self-defense”? pic.twitter.com/nLzehNKknO

— sarah (@sahouraxo) October 9, 2024

Israel dropped bombs on a fire station in South Lebanon today, killing 10 Lebanese firefighters as they prepared for rescue operations.

Many remain trapped beneath the rubble.

This is a massacre of civilians. pic.twitter.com/wYzaq6H3Hb

— sarah (@sahouraxo) October 7, 2024

⚡️BREAKING: The primary ambulance team of the Al-Shifa Association in Baalbek survived a missile that exploded in front of them during one of the airstrikes on the city of Baalbek, Lebanon.

Israel targeted paramedics, ambulances, schools, hospital and killed 500 in one day. pic.twitter.com/O72et6qL9O

— Suppressed News. (@SuppressedNws) September 23, 2024

They've been dropping napalm and white phosphorus on villages to burn entire regions, bombing fire stations ensures that job is properly done.

This is what the mainstream media *doesn’t want you to see*…

Israeli forces using banned white phosphorus ammunition’s in over 17 towns and cities in Lebanon…

If Hezbollah rained white phosphorus over Tel Aviv there would be wall to wall coverage and every major leader would… pic.twitter.com/FZiuLhRbo8

— Pelham (@Resist_05) June 5, 2024

Remember the early stages of the Gaza mass slaughter where you were arguing about the first hospital being bombed being a secret Hamas base with tunnels, or being hit by Hamas rockets? That didn't age well 30+ bombed hospitals later...

Israel has since pulverized dozens of other hospitals, and has last night firebombed hospital yard tents full of overflow patients.

Israel is relentlessly bombing Palestinians in northern Gaza, targeting civilians even as they sleep. They bombed tents filled with displaced Palestinian families outside Al Aqsa Martyrs Hospital, burning entire families alive. Palestinians are being massacred daily, with the… pic.twitter.com/geJWdsSamM

— Mondoweiss (@Mondoweiss) October 14, 2024

These are the people you support.

Last night, Israel bombed a refugee camp near a Gaza hospital.

People were set on fire, flailing as they were burned alive.

On Israeli Telegram, users on a channel with 140k+ members reacted with heart and laughing emojis, celebrating the horror and calling for more. https://t.co/KRnMgPSGlM pic.twitter.com/NLcl3Iho4J

— Sina Toossi (@SinaToossi) October 14, 2024

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While Israel is bombing and killing civilians in Northern Lebanon James Paterson is still holding the indefensible line about 'antisemitism' #insiders. What a degenerate disloyal feckless grub he is. pic.twitter.com/oS5DiqijIE

— Liam the Trekky. Israel murders children (@shootin4love) October 12, 2024

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No, but there are 10s of thousands of displaced Israeli's - removed from their homes because Hezbollah was indiscriminately bombing them. Not to mention the soccer field with the 12 (?) kids who were killed. But sure, they only attack military targets.

Evidence that Hamas beats civilians who try to flee N. Gaza. But I am sure that is Israel's fault...because Democratic Israel is evil and terrorist Hamas is pure and clean and good and awesome.

IDF releases phone conversation with Gaza civilian who reports Hamas is beating Palestinians who try to evacuate northern Gaza pic.twitter.com/fB29y1boeH

— Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) October 14, 2024

tequila4kapp said:

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Cal88 said:

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While Israel is bombing and killing civilians in Northern Lebanon James Paterson is still holding the indefensible line about 'antisemitism' #insiders. What a degenerate disloyal feckless grub he is. pic.twitter.com/oS5DiqijIE

— Liam the Trekky. Israel murders children (@shootin4love) October 12, 2024

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No, but there are 10s of thousands of displaced Israeli's - removed from their homes because Hezbollah was indiscriminately bombing them. Not to mention the soccer field with the 12 (?) kids who were killed. But sure, they only attack military targets.

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1- The kids killed in the Israeli occupied Golan Heights were Arab kids, and they were killed by an Israeli anti-air missile landing there. Israeli officials who went there for their photo ops were promptly chased out by the locals.

“You murderer, get out of here!”

Syrian Druze residents of the town of Majdal Shams in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights expel Israeli Finance Minister and other members of the Likud (Netanyahu’s party) from the funeral of the 12 youths who were killed after a missile fell on a… pic.twitter.com/UeQ4AXj6Zb

— The Cradle (@TheCradleMedia) July 28, 2024

2- Hezbollah targets military sites in northern Israel, while Israel bombs Lebanese churches, hospitals, dense residential neighborhoods in cities, and uses white phosphorous on over a dozen Lebanese towns.

You can't conduct a mass slaughter killing civilians by the tens of thousands while starving them, dropping the equivalent of over 4 Hiroshima bombs over a densely populated open-air ghetto and not expect blowback from your neighbors and on top of all this, keep playing the victim.

^Perhaps you could use one of the dozen plus active Trump threads to talk about Trump, Bearister?

All global institutions need to be moved out of the United States as soon as possible.
It is unbearable to have the United Nations housed and beholden to a country that is actively engaging in the genocide and extermination of a race. pic.twitter.com/56C8ZoBIe2

— Kerry Burgess (@KerryBurgess) October 14, 2024

Keep it up, Israel !!!

Chapman_is_Gone said:

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Keep it up, Israel !!!

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It's not my only reason, or even my #1 reason for supporting Israel, but it sure doesn't hurt their cause that a heckuva lot of Israeli chicks seem pretty hot. Am I some sort of pig for noticing this and valuing it? Maybe...

Biden and Kamala are now further right than a literal fascist. pic.twitter.com/igRSrgRswz

— Holding Dems Accountable (From the Left!) (@PushBidenLeft) October 16, 2024

Israel flag = blue
Palestinian flag = red

Cal88 said:

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Biden and Kamala are now further right than a literal fascist. pic.twitter.com/igRSrgRswz

— Holding Dems Accountable (From the Left!) (@PushBidenLeft) October 16, 2024

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I thought the Dems were moving left. I am so confused.

dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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Biden and Kamala are now further right than a literal fascist. pic.twitter.com/igRSrgRswz

— Holding Dems Accountable (From the Left!) (@PushBidenLeft) October 16, 2024

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I thought the Dems were moving left. I am so confused.

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Left on social issues, neocon right on forever war.

This being said, Trump is definitely not better here, no question.

Apparently the definition of war has now changed depending on who is President

Am Israel Chai. All those who seek to destroy us will be eliminated.

Israeli soldiers watch the remains of Yahya Sinwar - the monster who masterminded 07/10.

Iconic image for the history books. pic.twitter.com/0Qr4RGifCm

— 𝗡𝗶𝗼𝗵 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗴 ♛ ✡︎ (@NiohBerg) October 17, 2024