The Official Impeach tRump Thread

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going4roses
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Impeachment should not the goal the goal should be reprogramming of the people that voted for him/that identity with his narrative.

When people have drug abuse issues that person has to find and identify (w/ help most times) the reason one has fallen into the cycle of abuse.

If he is removed does white nationalism(supremacy) stop ... Nope
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Lol
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Chris Wallace vs man desperately seeking love.


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Numbers not looking good for Trumpo and GOP. Methinks public polls follow suit, for pro-impeachment.
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B.A. Bearacus said:

The GOP's top fast-yapping poodle spitting talking points and babble at Jake Tapper who isn't having it.


Watching Jordan, Scalise and others engage in verbal gymnastics trying to turn what the Idiot in Chief, Gollum, and the seven dwarfs did by attempting to get a foreign country to investigate a domestic political rival and his son by withholding foreign aid to the Ukraine is just amazing. The fact that Jordan and Scalise want to talk about everything and anything except what actually happened is stunning. They obviously think that the people of this country are stupid and cannot discern what the Idiot in Chief meant in the transcripts that were released in which the Ukrainian leader ask for military aid and the Idiot in Chief ask for a favor before he would commit to providing the foreign aid. The multiple explanations he has given for his actions to get the Bidens investigated, the use of Gollum his personal attorney who suddenly is speaking to the Ukrainian President on behalf of the Idiot in Chief and U.S. State Dept., and attempting to hide evidence by using intelligence evidence protocol when the transcripts released don't indicate the need for such evidence classification, show dishonesty and intent. There are a number of high ranking administration cabinet members and government officials who have been implicated by the evidence, Gollum and the Idiot in Chief, who will have to provide testimony regarding their involvement in mob-like shakedown and the attempt to cover it up.

The Idiot in Chief will destroy himself and all those he is connected with as Pence, Pompeo, Volker, Mulvaney, Minuchin, and Barr will be subpoenaed. It will be SCOTUS who will have decide whether or not Congress is a coequal branch of the government, it will be Congress who decides if the Idiot in Chief, Gollum, and the seven dwarfs broke the law should be impeached or referred for criminal prosecution, and it will be the voters who will decide if the Idiot in Chief has damaged our institutions enough and vote him out of office?

It wasn't that long ago that we had a President that tried to do what was best for America and its people, and not for his personal gain. Right or wring, we had a President whose integrity was beyond reproach, a President who was not the laughingstock of the world, and a President that people could point to and be proud of.
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Trump's playbook for planting suspicion

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-attack-opponents-suspicion-8d6be62d-bf84-4c4a-a2f9-e33afcdef5d6.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top
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Watch: Trump Gives High Praise To Mark Levin For Explosive "FOX & Friends" Segment On Ukraine

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/29/watch_trump_gives_high_praise_to_mark_levin_for_heated_fox__friends_appearance.html

Question # 1: The way tRump's surrogates are lathering up his base on the Sunday Talkies (i.e. Rudy, Jim Jordan, Mark Levin, and Stephen Miller) do you think his supporters will engage in violent acts of insurrection if tRump is removed from office either by impeachment or the 2020 Election?

Question # 2: If so, do you think they would accept volunteers to join militias to hunt down Deplorables that act out and would there be an upper age restriction for such volunteers?
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Team Trump, self-destructing. Rudy looks frazzled and tired and of course he has major skin in the game, working as Trumpo's consigliere, could be open to criminal prosecution on Ukraine-gate.
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BearNIt said:

B.A. Bearacus said:

The GOP's top fast-yapping poodle spitting talking points and babble at Jake Tapper who isn't having it.


Watching Jordan, Scalise and others engage in verbal gymnastics trying to turn what the Idiot in Chief, Gollum, and the seven dwarfs did by attempting to get a foreign country to investigate a domestic political rival and his son by withholding foreign aid to the Ukraine is just amazing. The fact that Jordan and Scalise want to talk about everything and anything except what actually happened is stunning. They obviously think that the people of this country are stupid and cannot discern what the Idiot in Chief meant in the transcripts that were released in which the Ukrainian leader ask for military aid and the Idiot in Chief ask for a favor before he would commit to providing the foreign aid. The multiple explanations he has given for his actions to get the Bidens investigated, the use of Gollum his personal attorney who suddenly is speaking to the Ukrainian President on behalf of the Idiot in Chief and U.S. State Dept., and attempting to hide evidence by using intelligence evidence protocol when the transcripts released don't indicate the need for such evidence classification, show dishonesty and intent. There are a number of high ranking administration cabinet members and government officials who have been implicated by the evidence, Gollum and the Idiot in Chief, who will have to provide testimony regarding their involvement in mob-like shakedown and the attempt to cover it up.

The Idiot in Chief will destroy himself and all those he is connected with as Pence, Pompeo, Volker, Mulvaney, Minuchin, and Barr will be subpoenaed. It will be SCOTUS who will have decide whether or not Congress is a coequal branch of the government, it will be Congress who decides if the Idiot in Chief, Gollum, and the seven dwarfs broke the law should be impeached or referred for criminal prosecution, and it will be the voters who will decide if the Idiot in Chief has damaged our institutions enough and vote him out of office?

It wasn't that long ago that we had a President that tried to do what was best for America and its people, and not for his personal gain. Right or wring, we had a President whose integrity was beyond reproach, a President who was not the laughingstock of the world, and a President that people could point to and be proud of.


Decided not to edit your post because it is good enough to wallpaper this whole board with. tRump's defense tactics, as employed by his surrogates (who probably pick up envelopes fat with cash after their Sunday morning performances), are right from the Mafia Attorney's Defense Manual. Charlie Manson's defense attorney, Irving Kanarek (still fogging a mirror at 99), was a virtuoso practitioner of the art form:

"According to Tate-LaBianca prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, Kanarek was legendary in Los Angeles courts for his dilatory, obstructionist tactics. In his book, Helter Skelter, Bugliosi claimed Kanarek, in a different case, had once objected to a witness identifying himself; Kanarek claimed his name was hearsay because the witness had first heard it from his mother.[6]

In the Tate-LaBianca trial, Kanarek objected nine times during opening statements, despite continuous censure by Judge Charles Older. During a later objection, he called witness Linda Kasabian insane, and by the third day of the trial, he had objected more than 200 times. According to author Jeff Guinn, jurors requested "NoDoz to ward off sleepiness" during his presentations, and he "infuriated his client so much" that Manson physically "attacked him in the courtroom."[7] During the course of the trial he was jailed twice by Judge Older for contempt of court. In his summation, Bugliosi dubbed Kanarek "the Toscanini of Tedium."[8]" Wikipedia
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Things are moving very fast.
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going4roses said:

Impeachment should not the goal the goal should be reprogramming of the people that voted for him/that identity with his narrative.

When people have drug abuse issues that person has to find and identify (w/ help most times) the reason one has fallen into the cycle of abuse.

If he is removed does white nationalism(supremacy) stop ... Nope
And how would you propose to stop it?
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Fox News has framed the issue as: A Culture War; Good vs. Evil; and Democracy vs. The Deep State.

The reaction of any tRumpist to facts that puts them on the wrong side of that equation Is:

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Pigskin Pete said:

going4roses said:

Impeachment should not the goal the goal should be reprogramming of the people that voted for him/that identity with his narrative.

When people have drug abuse issues that person has to find and identify (w/ help most times) the reason one has fallen into the cycle of abuse.

If he is removed does white nationalism(supremacy) stop ... Nope
And how would you propose to stop it?

He mentioned reprogramming . . .

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CBS News poll: Majority of Americans and Democrats approve of Trump impeachment inquiry



The needle keeps moving. Trump and the GOP have a serious momentum problem going against them.

going4roses
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The short or long version?

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going4roses said:

The short or long version?
Your choice
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bearister said:

BearNIt said:

B.A. Bearacus said:

The GOP's top fast-yapping poodle spitting talking points and babble at Jake Tapper who isn't having it.


Watching Jordan, Scalise and others engage in verbal gymnastics trying to turn what the Idiot in Chief, Gollum, and the seven dwarfs did by attempting to get a foreign country to investigate a domestic political rival and his son by withholding foreign aid to the Ukraine is just amazing. The fact that Jordan and Scalise want to talk about everything and anything except what actually happened is stunning. They obviously think that the people of this country are stupid and cannot discern what the Idiot in Chief meant in the transcripts that were released in which the Ukrainian leader ask for military aid and the Idiot in Chief ask for a favor before he would commit to providing the foreign aid. The multiple explanations he has given for his actions to get the Bidens investigated, the use of Gollum his personal attorney who suddenly is speaking to the Ukrainian President on behalf of the Idiot in Chief and U.S. State Dept., and attempting to hide evidence by using intelligence evidence protocol when the transcripts released don't indicate the need for such evidence classification, show dishonesty and intent. There are a number of high ranking administration cabinet members and government officials who have been implicated by the evidence, Gollum and the Idiot in Chief, who will have to provide testimony regarding their involvement in mob-like shakedown and the attempt to cover it up.

The Idiot in Chief will destroy himself and all those he is connected with as Pence, Pompeo, Volker, Mulvaney, Minuchin, and Barr will be subpoenaed. It will be SCOTUS who will have decide whether or not Congress is a coequal branch of the government, it will be Congress who decides if the Idiot in Chief, Gollum, and the seven dwarfs broke the law should be impeached or referred for criminal prosecution, and it will be the voters who will decide if the Idiot in Chief has damaged our institutions enough and vote him out of office?

It wasn't that long ago that we had a President that tried to do what was best for America and its people, and not for his personal gain. Right or wring, we had a President whose integrity was beyond reproach, a President who was not the laughingstock of the world, and a President that people could point to and be proud of.


Decided not to edit your post because it is good enough to wallpaper this whole board with. tRump's defense tactics, as employed by his surrogates (who probably pick up envelopes fat with cash after their Sunday morning performances), are right from the Mafia Attorney's Defense Manual. Charlie Manson's defense attorney, Irving Kanarek (still fogging a mirror at 99), was a virtuoso practitioner of the art form:

"According to Tate-LaBianca prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, Kanarek was legendary in Los Angeles courts for his dilatory, obstructionist tactics. In his book, Helter Skelter, Bugliosi claimed Kanarek, in a different case, had once objected to a witness identifying himself; Kanarek claimed his name was hearsay because the witness had first heard it from his mother.[6]

In the Tate-LaBianca trial, Kanarek objected nine times during opening statements, despite continuous censure by Judge Charles Older. During a later objection, he called witness Linda Kasabian insane, and by the third day of the trial, he had objected more than 200 times. According to author Jeff Guinn, jurors requested "NoDoz to ward off sleepiness" during his presentations, and he "infuriated his client so much" that Manson physically "attacked him in the courtroom."[7] During the course of the trial he was jailed twice by Judge Older for contempt of court. In his summation, Bugliosi dubbed Kanarek "the Toscanini of Tedium."[8]" Wikipedia
Thanks working multiple 12 hr shifts. Not very sharp in the morning.
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Gaffes and giggling at the end aside, the SNL Inside the Beltway skit echoes my guess at the situation (as I've said).

Yes of course this and other obstruction of justice by Trump should easily be enough to impeach and bring down any presidency. But right now,

Ain't Nothin' Gonna Happen:



Edited: I is stupid at posting teh youtubes
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bearister said:

Trump's playbook for planting suspicion

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-attack-opponents-suspicion-8d6be62d-bf84-4c4a-a2f9-e33afcdef5d6.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top
This is not Trump's playbook, this is Newt Gingrich's playbook raised to a higher level by Trump. The Republicans have been doing this ever since Newt Gingrich became the Republican leader in the early 1990's. The media has shown a willingness to play ball and treat these investigations seriously for decades now, rewarding these nefarious, undemocratic efforts and bringing us to where we are today.

It's one of the reasons I became a solid, partisan democrat back in the 1990's. You could see the Republicans were abusing their investigative authority for political reasons. Because of the rise of right wing media, mainstream media was cowed into going along. It's been a long running farce and disgrace for this country.
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B.A. Bearacus said:

Chris Wallace vs man desperately seeking love.





Looks to me like Trump's world is going to cave in on him. Wallace is now delivering Dem points, co-equal branch of government. This is signaling to others.

Elsewhere I read that 35 Republican Senators would vote to impeach if it was a secret ballot, per Jeff Flake.

Hopefully the end is near. Jeb Bush was spot on when he said Trump was a Chaos Candidate and would be a Chaos President.
Indeed, he has been.
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bearister said:

Watch: Trump Gives High Praise To Mark Levin For Explosive "FOX & Friends" Segment On Ukraine

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/29/watch_trump_gives_high_praise_to_mark_levin_for_heated_fox__friends_appearance.html

Question # 1: The way tRump's surrogates are lathering up his base on the Sunday Talkies (i.e. Rudy, Jim Jordan, Mark Levin, and Stephen Miller) do you think his supporters will engage in violent acts of insurrection if tRump is removed from office either by impeachment or the 2020 Election?

Question # 2: If so, do you think they would accept volunteers to join militias to hunt down Deplorables that act out and would there be an upper age restriction for such volunteers?


...For those who thought I was joking:



"People like Donald Trump who have severe narcissistic disturbances can't tolerate being criticized," says Dodes, "so the more they are challenged in this essential way, the more out of control they become. They change reality to suit themselves in their own mind." And, as Dodes explains, it creates a vicious cycle: The more out of control Trump becomes, the more reason others have to challenge him, which only makes him more out of control. When he tells a rally crowd that America will become "a third-world country" if he gets impeached, that's this defensive/delusional coupling playing out in real time.
According to Gartner, as the pressure mounts as it likely will with a Democratic House investigating the Trump syndicate the situation will only continue to deteriorate. "The more desperate he is, the more aggressively and the more recklessly he's going to lash out and not just lash out on Twitter, but really lash out in ways that are destructive to the bones of our institutions. So, he'll try to declare criminal investigations on his enemies or anyone who criticizes him. He'll fire everyone involved in the Mueller investigations. He'll fire Sessions" which, of course, he actually did last Wednesday. "He'll ramp up his attack on civil liberties and the rule of law. He'll escalate his incitement to violence, whether it's supporting white nationalists or demonizing minority populations. Things that we think, 'Oh, he could never do that, because that would be so outrageous,' he can and he will. There's no restraints here. There's nothing he won't do. And if it's enormously destructive, that's not actually a negative for him, that's a positive." Rolling Stone, November, 2018

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mental-health-754139/amp/

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That was quick, the Trump escalation to 11 on the crazy meter. If Trump is threatening civil war now, what does he bait the media with in two or four months?

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Probably a good time for North Korea to invade South Korea and Putin to roll the tanks into the Ukraine.
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Second civil war letters:

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Pigskin Pete said:

going4roses said:

The short or long version?
Your choice


Stop teaching the younger generation the BS

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They say Trump is in full meltdown mode given his Civil War tweets...GOP grasping at straws, digging up a prank call to Adam Schiff. Might be a fake as well. This is after a week.

And yet, some GOP understand the straw grasping and futility...

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p.s. message from Trump's boss.
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Dear Trump fans who have seething anger for Adam Schiff:

I don't actually live in his Congressional District.

But I live close enough to his Congressional District that if I play my music really loud, I can annoy his constituents.

If you want me to do that, just paypal me $10 to okaydo1@gmail.com.

Thank you!


By the way, Schiff's district is frickin huge.

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Another Bear said:



p.s. message from Trump's boss.
Trump doesn't always comply with law, but when he does he prefers to comply with Russian law.
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going4roses said:

Pigskin Pete said:

going4roses said:

The short or long version?
Your choice
Stop teaching the younger generation the BS


And how are we going to make people stop teaching them this?
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The House must flex its constitutional muscles to get to Trump


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/30/the-house-constitutional-trump-impeachment-process-president?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Next man up! Rudy in the crosshairs now.
 
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