82gradDLSdad said:Big C said:tequila4kapp said:I agree with this guy that the system is broken and needs to be exposed / torn down. I would laugh at those who still believe in it, except it's so tragic. The problem is a) Trump is not to be trusted to even try to tear it down for right reasons - he's always self motivated, which ironically makes him fundamentally the same as that which would be torn down; and b) we are seeing right in front of our eyes that one man can't do it. "The system" wins…and this will be proven when Trump is seen being walked into a prison.Unit2Sucks said:This is a good example of an undecided GOP voter. Doesn't exactly give me confidence in the electorate. Trump figured out that you don't win by reasoning with these people, you con and grift them. His problem is that there aren't enough people like this who are still falling for the con.bearister said:
Your talk of independent voters reminded me of Bill Maher's quote about the undecided voters in 2016:
"And that, in a nutshell, is America's celebrated, undecided voter: put on a pedestal by the media as if they were Hamlet in a think-tank, searching out every last bit of information, high-minded arbiters pouring over policy positions and matching them against their own philosophies. Please, they mostly fall into a category political scientists call 'low information voters,' otherwise known as 'dipsh@its."
Maher went on to point out that the Octa-Mom has publicly declared she is an undecided voter and that she does not know who Mitt Romney is. Kim Kardashian also announced she is an undecided voter."
POLITICO: 'Our System Needs to Be Broken, and He Is the Man to Do It'
— Brian Harrod (@GetTheDailyDirt) January 24, 2024
Ted Johnson sincerely thought he wanted a uniter not a divider. It didn't last long....https://t.co/lgRULQ8cplQuote:
"And trust me, the guy's a pig, he's a womanizer arrogant a-----e," Johnson said of Trump. "But I need somebody that's going to go in and lead, and I need somebody that's going to take care of the average guy."
"But is taking care of the average guy and breaking the system the same thing?" I said.
"Yes," he said. "Because they're all in it for themselves."
"And if you break the system, what does that look like?"
"Accountability," he said.
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"Accountability is accountability. But they're throwing so much stuff at this guy, and it's almost like I'm rooting for him," he told me. "This is a whole system of government going after one man who, probably, I bet, right now, 85 million people want to be president."
"But accountability is accountability," I said.
"Accountability is accountability," he said.
"Whether it's Hunter Biden or Donald Trump," I said.
"But do I trust the system?" he said. "I don't."
"You're a veteran," I told him. "You are somebody who doesn't trust the system that in the broadest sense you served."
"I have no trust," he said.
"The system you served," I said again.
"That's right. I swore an oath," he said. "I believed in that oath."
"When did you stop believing?" I asked Ted Johnson.
"About when Trump became president," he answered.
What I think is on the mind of many a Trump voter:
- He will be convicted of something: "Good! So what? Screw it! Being President from prison...I like it!"
- He's always self-motivated: "We are all self-motivated. At least he's honest about it! Screw it!"
It's what we've come to: Trump, the billionaire New Yorker, resonates with the disenfranchised American.
I know very 'franchised' Americans who are saying '**** it' I'm voting for Trump. There is almost nothing he can do or have done to him that will change their minds. It is incredible. And to be such a knucklehead (not you, Big C) to just name call these folks completely misses how off the rails our system is.
I think a lot of it boils down to unspoken anger about how brown, and open to LGTBQ, and unreligious younger generations are. That category of people are the deplorables.
