Unit2Sucks said:Just a bunch of garbage. Be careful not to hurt yourself falling off your high horse ("I educate folks").oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:You don't have to defend all bad behavior by cops. Some times cops commit misconduct and when they do they should be criticized. But yet here we are with you both acknowledging that you can't claim this is proper police work yet continuing to defend the cops. Textbook example from the 003 contrarian playbook.oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:You aren't very familiar with the constitution if you think that police can perform drive-by executions on "wanged gang members".oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:I acknowledge that after inventing any number of baseless defenses for the bad cops, you have repeatedly said that you aren't "saying it's good or proper police work".oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:This is exactly right. The starting point (even with corrupt and blundering LAPD) is that the cops are always right. They're shooting at a black guy so the black guy must be a criminal. This was an obviously bad shoot - there was no reason to wantonly fire a weapon. Even if what 003 is saying is true you don't need to fire a weapon. That's why 003 both defends unconditionally and then follows up at the end by acknowledging that it was poor police work.going4roses said:
At this rate law enforcement is virtually infallible… practically never ever wrong no matter what the actual evidence shows.
You and that mindset(social construct) is the exact reason Critical Legal Studies had to be become a thing because "in order to get a person to support a policy you must first wind the mind "
If I'm a black guy and I see the police speeding toward me with guns blazing of course I fooking run for cover. Look at the girl who gets out of the car to save herself. This is just human survival instinct. There is no way in h=ll that 003 sees cops shooting at him for no reason and walks into gunfire with his hands up. One of the dumbest propositions I've ever heard is to think that any rational person would act differently than the shooting victims here - they did what any other people would do, move to safety in the face of gunfire. 003 is just doing his normal braindead contrarian thing and his opinion should be disregarded entirely as not reflective of any reality we live in.
003 does not defend unconditionally. Wrong again, doing your braindead woke crap. I live much closer to this reality than you realize. I hope my kids aren't thinking as stupidly as you are here. I demand better behavior than almost all the people in these videos. In trying to balance kommie's one-sided paragraphs, I never once said the cops should have shot at the person. You fail here buddy.
But what is your goal here? Are you really teaching your kids that when they are walking into their home and face a hail of gunfire that they should turn around and walk toward danger? If so, you would be the only person on the planet to do so. The victims of this senseless gunfire did what they should have done.
Contrarian nonsense and not reflective of any shared reality.
I would teach my kids to respect, be aware of, and acknowledge the police. 99% of them are there to keep all of us safe. I definitely would not want them to turn away from the police while holding an object that looked like a handgun as if it were a handgun. I haven't really focused at all on the lady running, as you are well aware. I know you can't help it, but please don't conjure other people's arguments. Have some integrity.
If what I posted about an occupant of the car being a wanted gang member is true, it blows Kommie's entire narrative out of the sky. It should certainly better explain the actions of the car's occupants.
You continue to fail to acknowledge basic human behaviors, which is what we saw here. Even if the victims of gunfire here had just committed a murder, there would be no reason for the police to perform a drive-by shooting. That's just not allowable under any constitutional framework.
Police forces, particularly the LAPD, have perpetrated violence like this against communities of color for decades (more really). That's why so many are distrustful of police and why a person minding his own damn business wouldn't think to run toward police who have opened fire.
Honestly, I can't believe you are continuing to claim otherwise. You think anyone in their right fooking mind would hear gunshots (whatever the origin) and present themselves as a better target?
You really have zero reading comprehension if you think I ever said
that police can perform drive-by executions on "wanged gang members".
Everything isn't black and white, dude.
Just because I educate folks about anti-cop misinformation that breeds further distrust and hatred, further souring divisions in our society, it doesn't mean I advocate for the officer shooting here. Textbook example of Unit2 turning something into something it isn't, so he can support his liberal agenda.
As for "souring divisions", the fact that cops prey on communities of color is a bigger problem than people criticizing cops for bad behavior. The LAPD has been a corrupt state actor for decades, if not longer. Do you remember Rampart? Do you think the problem of "distrust and hatred" is a product of shedding light on corruption or the fact that corruption exists?
There was no reason for you to show up and white knight for this egregious shooting by LAPD but here you are. As with your low energy trolling style, I expect you to continue to rephrase my commentary like you did above. If you are going to have such trite and pathetic takes here, at least try to be entertaining rather than failing on all levels as a poster.
I wish there was objective reporting on these sensitive issues instead of fear and hate mongering twitter users driving an anti-cop agenda. If the initial link had some real objective perspective, I would not need to post at all, and there could be honest discussion about proper police procedure, which this officer obviously did not follow.