CaliforniaEternal said:
It's pretty clear you place all the blame on Israel and absolve the Palestinians of their heinous crimes and any agency for their own actions. If you think Hamas wants a two state solution, you are completely blind to everything they stand for and have done. It's the same thing with their supporters in the US. Hamas could have avoided this entire war if they hadn't launched a brutal massacre and stuck to their own territory in Gaza. There's no turning back the clock now and a ceasefire without a release of all hostages is not possible.
I don't play that game. Go back and look at the words that I wrote. If I didn't say it, then that's not what I'm saying. Are we clear?
If you have an argument with something I wrote, or an assertion that I made, then quote me, and let's have at it.
But I refuse to debate your straw-man crap. I understand that when you don't have a compelling argument, winning against a straw man is the best you can do. But... come ON, man....!
Just read the Introduction on the 1st page of S Africa's case. They're clear (as am I) that Hamas' 10/7 attack
was, by itself,
a war crime.
Quote:
South Africa unequivocally condemns all violations of international law by all parties, including the direct targeting of Israeli civilians and other nationals and hostage-taking by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups.
They go on to make an extremely important point:
Quote:
No armed attack on a State's territory, no matter how serious even an attack involving atrocity crimes can, however, provide any possible justification for, or defence to, breaches of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide ('Genocide Convention' or 'Convention'),1 whether as a matter of law or morality. The acts and omissions by Israel complained of by South Africa are genocidal in character because they are intended to bring about the destruction of a substantial part of the Palestinian national, racial and ethnical group, that being the part of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip ('Palestinians in Gaza'). The acts in question include killing Palestinians in Gaza, causing them serious bodily and mental harm, and inflicting on them conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction. The acts are all attributable to Israel, which has failed to prevent genocide
and is committing genocide in manifest violation of the Genocide Convention, and which has also violated and is continuing to violate its other fundamental obligations under the Genocide Convention, including by failing to prevent or punish the direct and public incitement to genocide by senior Israeli officials and others.
What is abundantly clear is that Hamas knew
exactly how Netanyahu, Israel's Zionist extremists, and the IDF would respond to 10/7, because they've made their intentions of genocide and ethnic cleansing clear, repeatedly, in public statements, for years.
The harsh reality is that Hamas was willing to sacrifice their own neighbors & families in order to put Israel in the spotlight regarding human rights.
It's unlikely that Israel (or the U.S., for that matter) survive this without becoming 2nd-class citizens in the court of world opinion.
Hamas wants exactly what the Bibi & the Likudniks want: Total victory. "From the River to the Sea." All of it.
Neither will get what they want. Fortunately, the rest of the world is smart enough to not leave it to either the Israeli Government or the Palestinians & Hamas to make that call.
That's why we have the U.N. Every year, the U.N. General Assembly passes a resolution to create a Palestinian State, containing the West Bank & Gaza.
Of course, the U.S. is the lone vote on the U.N. Security Council to veto the resolution. And so it goes.
This is a case where JFK had it right:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."Israel and the U.S. are very concerned about S Africa's genocide case. It's a
very solid case, and it's painstakingly documented. I've already shared the most recent update of the extensive database of Israeli Expressions of Genocidal Intent. What I'll share here is something that you'll never see on corporate media, because it'll never get past the pro-Israel censors.
[Note: These expressions are shocking and disturbing. DO NOT expose children or sensitive people to this level of depravity. Use discretion.]
What is wrong with these Israelis?I thought that "Never Again" meant Never. Again.
Here are some videos for the S African case against Israeli genocide. In the U.S., only the Israeli response was streamed live. The original live stream for the presentation of the case was not streamed live by corporate media.
S Africa's case - long version (3 hrs)Irish lawyer's stunning speech at The Hague accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza (30 min)S African lawyer lays out case against Israeli genocide