The Non-Yogi Israel-Palestine war thread

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In reply to CaliforniaEternal • 5:04p, 9/18/25
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7:32a, 9/19/25
wth...

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10:43a, 9/19/25
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNiRzzmqq0l/?igsh=cnMyNmQwYm9samJu
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9:51p, 9/19/25


Tikvah is an Israel First group dedicated to advancing "Jewish excellence," "Jewish flourishing" and "Israeli sovereignty."

Excellence in genocide
Flourishing in forced starvation
Sovereignty in mass murder
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8:57a, 9/20/25
It's interesting that with this NEA grant Jews are now fully engaged in the DEI playbook. If anyone proposed grants to celebrate African American or Chicano culture they'd be held up to ridicule by this administration.
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12:52p, 9/20/25
Desperate situation.



We're making this video because we could die at any moment."

"70-80% of our patients are children and pregnant women."

"I delivered a beheaded woman who was nine months pregnant."

"Can someone please stop this terror and horror?"

Australian doctors, speaking from Gaza
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:54p, 9/20/25
needs captions, or dint happen
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In reply to smh • 1:38p, 9/20/25
smh said:
needs captions, or dint happen
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Here's the Grok AI summary of the 10min video above CJay:

  • "The X post by Abier Khatib highlights a distressing video from two Australian doctors, Dr. Nada Abu-Rob and Dr. Saeed Aziz, working at Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza, who express fears of imminent death due to ongoing conflict, describing a dire situation where 70-80% of their patients are children and pregnant women, amidst severe shortages of medical supplies, food, and water, and continuous bombings.
  • The doctors recount harrowing experiences, including performing an emergency C-section on a beheaded nine-month pregnant woman, treating mass casualties on the floor due to lack of equipment, and the psychological toll of working under constant threat, with over 1,500 people still dead under rubble, emphasizing the collapse of the healthcare system and the urgent need for international intervention.
  • This situation is part of a broader context where Israel has launched a major ground offensive in Gaza City, despite international criticism and a UN report accusing Israel of genocide, with the Israeli military aiming to dismantle Hamas's grip, leading to significant displacement and a reported death toll exceeding 65,000 Palestinians, exacerbating the humanitarian crisis."
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    4:50p, 9/21/25
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    In reply to Cal88 • 9:10p, 9/21/25
    No bueno.
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    10:30p, 9/21/25
    The first brave official act of the newly proclaimed Palestinian state. Definitely on brand.


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    In reply to BearGoggles • 6:10a, 9/22/25
    BearGoggles said:
    The first brave official act of the newly proclaimed Palestinian state. Definitely on brand.





    What kind of brand is blowing up families and shooting kids in the head, Beargoggles?

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    In reply to Cal88 • 9:46a, 9/22/25
    Cal88 said:
    Desperate situation.



    We're making this video because we could die at any moment."

    "70-80% of our patients are children and pregnant women."

    "I delivered a beheaded woman who was nine months pregnant."

    "Can someone please stop this terror and horror?"

    Australian doctors, speaking from Gaza
    Is it even physiologically possible to deliver a baby from a beheaded woman in the few minutes before the baby dies from lack of blood and oxygen?

    I am in no way defending Israel for this despicable act. It just appears to be impossible to have occurred even if the beheading happened at the hospital.
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    In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 10:00a, 9/22/25
    Eastern Oregon Bear said:
    Cal88 said:
    Desperate situation.



    We're making this video because we could die at any moment."

    "70-80% of our patients are children and pregnant women."

    "I delivered a beheaded woman who was nine months pregnant."

    "Can someone please stop this terror and horror?"

    Australian doctors, speaking from Gaza

    Is it even physiologically possible to deliver a baby from a beheaded woman in the few minutes before the baby dies from lack of blood and oxygen?

    I am in no way defending Israel for this despicable act. It just appears to be impossible to have occurred even if the beheading happened at the hospital.


    Apparently the baby from the beheaded mother they delivered with a C-section survived.

    Since I don't think you've got any expertise on baby deliveries, is your skepticism here based on some info you have gathered from a pro-zionist site?
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    In reply to Cal88 • 10:13a, 9/22/25
    Cal88 said:
    Eastern Oregon Bear said:
    Cal88 said:
    Desperate situation.



    We're making this video because we could die at any moment."

    "70-80% of our patients are children and pregnant women."

    "I delivered a beheaded woman who was nine months pregnant."

    "Can someone please stop this terror and horror?"

    Australian doctors, speaking from Gaza

    Is it even physiologically possible to deliver a baby from a beheaded woman in the few minutes before the baby dies from lack of blood and oxygen?

    I am in no way defending Israel for this despicable act. It just appears to be impossible to have occurred even if the beheading happened at the hospital.


    Apparently the baby from the beheaded mother they delivered with a C-section survived.

    Since I don't think you've got any expertise on baby deliveries, is your skepticism here based on some info you have gathered from a pro-zionist site?
    I haven't looked at any pro-zionist or anti-zionist web sites since October 7th and I'm not sure when I might have before then. It's not one of my big interests. I can question a statement without having political motives. I just applied my common sense about what happens during a beheading. The victim dies almost immediately. The unborn baby couldn't live more than 10 minutes without oxygen.

    I know someone who had their baby deprived of oxygen during delivery and even with all the services a hospital can provide, the child has had severe medical problems ever since. She will likely need significant medical care and supervision for the rest of her life. And that was just for a few minutes of oxygen deprivation.
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    10:25a, 9/22/25
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    In reply to Cal88 • 11:59a, 9/22/25
    Cal88 said:
    BearGoggles said:
    The first brave official act of the newly proclaimed Palestinian state. Definitely on brand.





    What kind of brand is blowing up families and shooting kids in the head, Beargoggles?


    That is Hamas' brand. Hamas started the war and continues to endanger civilians by hiding behind them while holding Israeli hostages. Hamas beats and/or executes anyone who dissents, as evidenced by the video I posted which is not unique.

    If Hamas released the hostages, the war would end. The pressure on Israel to stop fighting would be overwhelming. Why haven't they? Why are you demanding they do so? If you cared about Gazans, you'd be insisting the hostages be immediately released. But you don't.
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    12:51p, 9/22/25
    I don't think it's just about the hostages anymore (if it ever was).

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    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1945435722695575?mibextid=9drbnH&s=yWDuG2&fs=e
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    7:21p, 9/25/25
    After Putin, Trump might finally be figuring out how much another world leader has played him.

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    7:59a, 9/26/25
    Don't leave. Somebody should've taken him out
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    11:53a, 9/26/25
    Maybe this should be under the censorship thread.
    Or the Trump Administration thread.
    Or the end of democracy/authoritarianism thread




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    4:59a, 9/30/25


    Warning - graphic scene
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    7:14a, 9/30/25
    "The 20-point "Comprehensive Plan to End the Gaza Conflict" that President Trump presented yesterday contained significant changes requested by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, infuriating Arab officials involved in the negotiations,sources familiar with the process tell Axios' Barak Ravid.

    Why it matters: Trump presented the situation as straightforward. He said Israel, the U.S. and its Arab partners were all aligned on a final plan, and Hamas must agree or face annihilation. The behind-the-scenes reality is murkier and the negotiations could just be beginning.

    Split screen: While Trump and Netanyahu were discussing the plan on camera at the White House, Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani was presenting it to Hamas leaders in Doha, a source with knowledge said.

    The source said Hamas leaders told Al Thani they'll study the proposal in good faith.

    U.S. officials say they hope to get Hamas' response before the end of the week, though Trump didn't present a firm deadline.

    The intrigue: The deal now before Hamas is significantly different than the one the U.S. and a group of Arab and Muslim countries had previously agreed on.

    Netanyahu managed to negotiate several edits into the text, in particular on the conditions and timetable for Israel's withdrawal from Gaza,    during a marathon meeting on Sunday with White House envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner.
    Officials from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey were furious over the changes, the sources said.

    Witkoff told Fox News that the Trump plan has widespread backing in the Middle East and Europe: "We have a lot of buy-in. Do we have some details to work out? Yes. But you know President Trump ... Everyone is going to be pushed by him."
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