Trump bragged that he would end the war in Ukraine: “I would fix that within 24 hours, and if I win, before I get into the office, I will have that war settled."
— LA Blue Dot in GA 🌊💔 (@namwella1961) January 16, 2025
Now he's admitted he can't deliver on that promise.#ProudBlue #TrumpIsUnfitForOffice #TrumpInauguration #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/A6gcJylwAj
Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
Please explain to me what a minder/babysitter is and how is that different than a lobbyist? If those are the same thing, then it is idiotic to think that most large lobbying groups don't have people assigned to each member of congress. It almost like its only a problem when its AIPAC . . . I wonder why?movielover said:BearGoggles said:movielover said:
Hasn't Israel wanted us to bomb Iran?
Folks have claimed Israel had a plan for us to start 7 wars in 5 years, and the only war yet to start was Iran?
(Israel has a full time minder for every US Congress person.)
This is weird borderline antisemetic. Who are these "folks"? Are you suggesting Israel controls US foreign policy? The "full time minder" concept is just bizarre. Remarkable that 3 people here starred this post.
To answer your question, both the US and Israel have wanted to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. That is the only reason to consider bombing Iran. And should that become necessary, Israel doesn't need US assistance to bomb Iran. What it does need is the heavy bunker busting ordnance
And for the record, Israel could bomb Iran today if it wanted to.
Final questions. Who started the current war in Gaza? Is that one of the 7 wars you're counting?
Congressman Thomas Massie ousted that AIPAC has a minder ('babysitter') for every Congressman.
For the record, Colonel Douglass McGregor has said President Trump said no to attacking Iran at least four times. After one of our intell planes was shot down on the Iranian border or in Iranian airspace, Mike Pompeo allegedly rushed into POTUS' office with plans ready to go for an attack on Iran. President Trump said no, he'd come up with a less incendiary response.
Hamas attacked Israel (with Israel curiously asleep), and now Israel has leveled the country, including dropping phosphorus on civilians and bombing Syria's military.
Biden preemptively pardoned the January 6th committee.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 20, 2025
Everything they told you about January 6th was a lie.
Now we know for a fact that these treasonous, corrupt officials are guilty. pic.twitter.com/WsBIYM1SwF
PARDON: Now that General Milley has admitted guilt by accepting Biden's pardon I think it is only appropriate that @PeteHegseth have his portrait removed from the Pentagon. h/t @NatashaBertrand pic.twitter.com/uZFDFfsbPh
— @amuse (@amuse) January 20, 2025
QUESTION: Why did the White House remove Biden's statement about his families pardons from the White House website? https://t.co/I2OuU550mP pic.twitter.com/kBQSwZCVRv
— @amuse (@amuse) January 20, 2025
movielover said:
Pervs Clinton and Biden were checking out Carrie Underwood.
BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Preemptive pardons are proof of guilt, right Dems? Right media? Right?
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 20, 2025
pic.twitter.com/yu0ktHzbiW
Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
Of course you don't read. Lee, who was smart as a whip, is the man employed by Regan and GHWB. Look at the Southern stragey.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
I don't read? LMAO.philly1121 said:Of course you don't read. Lee, who was smart as a whip, is the man employed by Regan and GHWB. Look at the Southern stragey.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
As far as Trump and Musk - if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck - it is a duck. See Trump and 14th amendment.
I never said Lee was the only problem. I said he started the problem. His message was more nuanced than simply "lets stop the voting rights act". And Mitt? Mitt had an "elitist" problem. He identified as rich. Was unashamed about it. laughed at people that weren't. That's why he was blown out.
Kamala Harris is flying back to California with the 1st all-female Air Force crew to operate a C-33.
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 20, 2025
DEI until the end. pic.twitter.com/EW1ES3qzCC
The central point is that the racial divide is a Republican construct. Made possible by the evil genius Lee Atwater.BearGoggles said:I don't read? LMAO.philly1121 said:Of course you don't read. Lee, who was smart as a whip, is the man employed by Regan and GHWB. Look at the Southern stragey.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
As far as Trump and Musk - if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck - it is a duck. See Trump and 14th amendment.
I never said Lee was the only problem. I said he started the problem. His message was more nuanced than simply "lets stop the voting rights act". And Mitt? Mitt had an "elitist" problem. He identified as rich. Was unashamed about it. laughed at people that weren't. That's why he was blown out.
My comment was responding to the claim that Newt Gingrich was the beginning of the problem (and only citing him). So maybe you should take this up with Bearister since the two of you don't seem to be on the same page. My point - which you implicitly agree with - is that many dems have contributed to toxic politics and the racial divide.
As usual, you don't engage with the central point including the toxic and false comments Biden made about Romney. In fact, you support the awful rhetoric when it comes from the dems. If that's the case, that you really have no rational or principled basis for complaint when republicans do the same thing. But of course, you're hyper partisan and not rational.
BREAKING: Biden commuted sentence of Leonard Peltier, murderer of 2 FBI agents.
— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) January 20, 2025
IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
ADMIN POST.
— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) January 20, 2025
Trump pardoned 237 people.
Biden 8064.
Corrupt to the core. pic.twitter.com/MB68vvBRBm
Obama seldom leaves his fingerprints on anything. Just ask Joe Biden who still doesn't understand why he was removed from the 2024 ticket and has a knife in his back.sycasey said:IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
BearGoggles said:Obama seldom leaves his fingerprints on anything. Just ask Joe Biden who still doesn't understand why he was removed from the 2024 ticket and has a knife in his back.sycasey said:IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
I quoted you the Obama/Biden rhetoric on race including the "put you in chains" statement, Yes the campaign against Romney also involved painting him as an elitist, but the democrat playbook for the last 40 years has involved calling every republican candidate a racist or fascist. You can't credibly pretend that isn't how the dems rile up their base.
Did you read the NY times article?Big C said:BearGoggles said:Obama seldom leaves his fingerprints on anything. Just ask Joe Biden who still doesn't understand why he was removed from the 2024 ticket and has a knife in his back.sycasey said:IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
I quoted you the Obama/Biden rhetoric on race including the "put you in chains" statement, Yes the campaign against Romney also involved painting him as an elitist, but the democrat playbook for the last 40 years has involved calling every republican candidate a racist or fascist. You can't credibly pretend that isn't how the dems rile up their base.
The fact that Biden doesn't understand why he was removed from the ticket is why he was removed from the ticket. Props to Nancy Pelosi, who has the biggest balls of any Democrat.
Biden: Good first three years. Bad last year.
— Annie (@AnnieForTruth) January 20, 2025
BearGoggles said:Did you read the NY times article?Big C said:BearGoggles said:Obama seldom leaves his fingerprints on anything. Just ask Joe Biden who still doesn't understand why he was removed from the 2024 ticket and has a knife in his back.sycasey said:IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
I quoted you the Obama/Biden rhetoric on race including the "put you in chains" statement, Yes the campaign against Romney also involved painting him as an elitist, but the democrat playbook for the last 40 years has involved calling every republican candidate a racist or fascist. You can't credibly pretend that isn't how the dems rile up their base.
The fact that Biden doesn't understand why he was removed from the ticket is why he was removed from the ticket. Props to Nancy Pelosi, who has the biggest balls of any Democrat.
Biden: Good first three years. Bad last year.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/us/politics/schumer-biden-2024-election.html
It was Obama. Pelosi and Schumer would never have moved on Biden w/o Obama's approval. Didn't you see any of the Godfather or Good Fellas movies?
Biden was mentally diminished from year 1. It got progressively worse to the point he didn't even know what was happening (and what he was signing).
Yeah, he's USC's head football coach.bear2034 said:BearGoggles said:Did you read the NY times article?Big C said:BearGoggles said:Obama seldom leaves his fingerprints on anything. Just ask Joe Biden who still doesn't understand why he was removed from the 2024 ticket and has a knife in his back.sycasey said:IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
I quoted you the Obama/Biden rhetoric on race including the "put you in chains" statement, Yes the campaign against Romney also involved painting him as an elitist, but the democrat playbook for the last 40 years has involved calling every republican candidate a racist or fascist. You can't credibly pretend that isn't how the dems rile up their base.
The fact that Biden doesn't understand why he was removed from the ticket is why he was removed from the ticket. Props to Nancy Pelosi, who has the biggest balls of any Democrat.
Biden: Good first three years. Bad last year.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/us/politics/schumer-biden-2024-election.html
It was Obama. Pelosi and Schumer would never have moved on Biden w/o Obama's approval. Didn't you see any of the Godfather or Good Fellas movies?
Biden was mentally diminished from year 1. It got progressively worse to the point he didn't even know what was happening (and what he was signing).
DiabloWags is pretty confident that Biden knew who Lincoln Riley was.
As I said: some of Obama's allies certainly did it (so: Democrats), but Obama himself was usually pretty smart to avoid doing so.BearGoggles said:Obama seldom leaves his fingerprints on anything. Just ask Joe Biden who still doesn't understand why he was removed from the 2024 ticket and has a knife in his back.sycasey said:IMO part of the reason for Obama's success is that he personally didn't play the race card very much. Did other people around him? Both his allies and his enemies? Yeah, of course. But he mostly just existed as a black man running for President. His campaign against Romney was waged on class/economic grounds; they successfully painted Romney as a wealthy elitist.BearGoggles said:Lee Atwater never held political office. He was the James Carville of the right. Very odd to focus on him, of all people.philly1121 said:BearGoggles said:Yes. It was just Gingrich and Trump. Nothing happened in the 16 years in between those two?bearister said:
That is how it used to be. Reagan and Tip could enjoy a laugh and a whiskey….then nasty pieces of work like Newt Gingrich turned partisan politics into a bloodsport, followed by a petty, small man like Trump, weaned from the teat of borderline psychopath Roy Cohn, who elevated hatefulness and rat f@ucking to an art form (along with his malcontent, forever victimized, MAGA base).
No mention by you of Harry Reid or Pelosi. Harry Reid was the nastiest, most rat f@cking dishonest politician of my lifetime. And it is not even close.
Well Goggles there was man named Lee Atwater. Who changed the game with the Willie Horton ad. That ad has been pretty much universally recognized as what started the race to the bottom.
It's that race baiting type of ad, the ones that makes the suburban white housewife fear the black or Latino in the same sidewalk or neighborhood as them.
But - trump made gains with those people. They're still gonna get theirs which makes it so funny but tragic.
And if you're concerned about campaigns creating racial divides, then you may want to look at the recent Dem campaigns. Obama/HRC/Biden all played the race card against people like Mitt Romney. They called Trump and Vance fascists. Before that, they called GW Bush a fascist.
According to Biden, who was speaking to a primarily African American audience, Romney and the Republicans were going to put them back in chains.
But according to you, Lee Atwater was the only problem.
I quoted you the Obama/Biden rhetoric on race including the "put you in chains" statement, Yes the campaign against Romney also involved painting him as an elitist, but the democrat playbook for the last 40 years has involved calling every republican candidate a racist or fascist. You can't credibly pretend that isn't how the dems rile up their base.
The underpinning of progressive political action and thought are based on the theory of intersectionality which is inherently racial (if not racist).
His behavior in the second half of his presidency (especially the last year) was shockingly selfish, given how much he'd been a "team player Democrat" for pretty much his entire career. Killed his reputation and hurt the party badly.Big C said:
Biden: Good first three years. Bad last year.
It didn't hurt the party. Not having a functioning president - and then hiding that - hurt the entire country.sycasey said:His behavior in the second half of his presidency (especially the last year) was shockingly selfish, given how much he'd been a "team player Democrat" for pretty much his entire career. Killed his reputation and hurt the party badly.Big C said:
Biden: Good first three years. Bad last year.
Perhaps this is reflective of him just diminishing with age.
