Unit2Sucks said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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Yes, the working class just needs Trump to carry more empty pizza boxes, throw more paper towels at hurricane victims and talk about all of his personal grievances with the "very best" people who used to work for him but now hate him. That plus the GOP killing all legislation that could possibly improve the country because they are afraid of Trump will surely help working stiffs put food on the table.

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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Yes, the working class just needs Trump to carry more empty pizza boxes, throw more paper towels at hurricane victims and talk about all of his personal grievances with the "very best" people who used to work for him but now hate him. That plus the GOP killing all legislation that could possibly improve the country because they are afraid of Trump will surely help working stiffs put food on the table.

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Cal88 said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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There is a definite element of truth here, in that the working class is more socially conservative than the affluent liberal coastals who have taken over the Democratic Party and have pushed it further left on the social/ideological scale and further right on the neoliberal economic scale, a move which has alienated the former Democrat base. That's also true of some minorities who are also more socially conservative.

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Cal88 said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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There is a definite element of truth here, in that the working class is more socially conservative than the affluent liberal coastals who have taken over the Democratic Party and have pushed it further left on the social/ideological scale and further right on the neoliberal economic scale, a move which has alienated the former Democrat base. That's also true of some minorities who are also more socially conservative.

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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There is a definite element of truth here, in that the working class is more socially conservative than the affluent liberal coastals who have taken over the Democratic Party and have pushed it further left on the social/ideological scale and further right on the neoliberal economic scale, a move which has alienated the former Democrat base. That's also true of some minorities who are also more socially conservative.

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The ethnic groups with the highest percentage of their members affiliated with Protestant faith and Catholicism are Black and Hispanic at over 70%. And most immigrants still cling to the American dream, even more so that Whites. If the Republicans ever got off the stupid Trump train and focused on hope, economy, expanding LEGAL immigration and family values instead of stolen election and grievances, they would be so much more powerful. But their cowardice allowed the Trump populism to take hold that it has become a purity test on the right.

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The Deep State and Democrats got on the stupid Orange Man Bad Train to focus on impeaching Trump over the Russia Collusion hoax and the J6 FBI entrapment hoax and could care less about the economy, legal immigration and family values. They couldn't win based whatever they were secretly promoting with Joe Biden. It ended up being hyperinflation, an invasion of our southern border, and more endless wars. So they stole the election and created J6 to divert attention away from the crime of the century.

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calbear93 said:

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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There is a definite element of truth here, in that the working class is more socially conservative than the affluent liberal coastals who have taken over the Democratic Party and have pushed it further left on the social/ideological scale and further right on the neoliberal economic scale, a move which has alienated the former Democrat base. That's also true of some minorities who are also more socially conservative.

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The ethnic groups with the highest percentage of their members affiliated with Protestant faith and Catholicism are Black and Hispanic at over 70%. And most immigrants still cling to the American dream, even more so that Whites. If the Republicans ever got off the stupid Trump train and focused on hope, economy, expanding LEGAL immigration and family values instead of stolen election and grievances, they would be so much more powerful. But their cowardice allowed the Trump populism to take hold that it has become a purity test on the right.

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The Deep State and Democrats got on the stupid Orange Man Bad Train to focus on impeaching Trump over the Russia Collusion hoax and the J6 FBI entrapment hoax and could care less about the economy, legal immigration and family values. They couldn't win based whatever they were secretly promoting with Joe Biden. It ended up being hyperinflation, an invasion of our southern border, and more endless wars. So they stole the election and created J6 to divert attention away from the crime of the century.

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As a conservative, I am obviously more inclined to side with less regulation, less corporate taxes, encouraging family values, and legal immigration. I think Don McGahn was the one person in the Trump White House that I strongly supported. He led the drive on justice appointments with a focus on those with true conservative values (unlike Trump) like checking the almost unconstitutional power creep that kept growing the Chevron doctrine for unelected agencies where the laws were changing with every administration, with key law making activities removed from the elected legislative body. Congress will actually have to do their job on making laws instead of deferring to agencies controlled by the executive branch.

A true fiscal conservative, unlike Biden or Trump, would be like the first Bush and Clinton, who increased personal income tax and cut spending. Even Obama was more a fiscal conservative than Trump. The Republican party has lost its way.

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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A true fiscal conservative, unlike Biden or Trump, would be like the first Bush and Clinton, who increased personal income tax and cut spending. Even Obama was more a fiscal conservative than Trump. The Republican party has lost its way.

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Would you approve of shutting down parts of the government to curb spending?

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movielover said:

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When do our $2 Trillion+ deficits per year become unsustainable?

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sycasey said:

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calbear93 said:

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Big C said:

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What's killing the working class is this new, mandatory "Drag Queen Story Hour" in all our Kindergarten classes I keep hearing about. The political party that addresses this will get the working class vote, for sure!

Also, this Critical Race Theory stuff that dominates the entire middle and high school curriculum...

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There is a definite element of truth here, in that the working class is more socially conservative than the affluent liberal coastals who have taken over the Democratic Party and have pushed it further left on the social/ideological scale and further right on the neoliberal economic scale, a move which has alienated the former Democrat base. That's also true of some minorities who are also more socially conservative.

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The ethnic groups with the highest percentage of their members affiliated with Protestant faith and Catholicism are Black and Hispanic at over 70%. And most immigrants still cling to the American dream, even more so that Whites. If the Republicans ever got off the stupid Trump train and focused on hope, economy, expanding LEGAL immigration and family values instead of stolen election and grievances, they would be so much more powerful. But their cowardice allowed the Trump populism to take hold that it has become a purity test on the right.

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The Deep State and Democrats got on the stupid Orange Man Bad Train to focus on impeaching Trump over the Russia Collusion hoax and the J6 FBI entrapment hoax and could care less about the economy, legal immigration and family values. They couldn't win based whatever they were secretly promoting with Joe Biden. It ended up being hyperinflation, an invasion of our southern border, and more endless wars. So they stole the election and created J6 to divert attention away from the crime of the century.

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As a conservative, I am obviously more inclined to side with less regulation, less corporate taxes, encouraging family values, and legal immigration. I think Don McGahn was the one person in the Trump White House that I strongly supported. He led the drive on justice appointments with a focus on those with true conservative values (unlike Trump) like checking the almost unconstitutional power creep that kept growing the Chevron doctrine for unelected agencies where the laws were changing with every administration, with key law making activities removed from the elected legislative body. Congress will actually have to do their job on making laws instead of deferring to agencies controlled by the executive branch.

A true fiscal conservative, unlike Biden or Trump, would be like the first Bush and Clinton, who increased personal income tax and cut spending. Even Obama was more a fiscal conservative than Trump. The Republican party has lost its way.

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There just seems to be very little electoral audience for fiscal conservatism right now. It will probably come back at some point, but we're in an era where people want active spending/government.

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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bear2034 said:

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calbear93 said:

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A true fiscal conservative, unlike Biden or Trump, would be like the first Bush and Clinton, who increased personal income tax and cut spending. Even Obama was more a fiscal conservative than Trump. The Republican party has lost its way.

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Would you approve of shutting down parts of the government to curb spending?

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No, I need them to do their job. Shutting down the government is creating more expenses and more deficit. It doesn't actually reduce spending. Imagine shutting down a factory or an office because people cannot be professional, as if walking away and hurting Americans is the right leverage. Compromise and do the job.

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But what is your explanation then for an expanding government with bureaucrats who aren't elected, who can't be held accountable for making policy decisions, and require a growing budget to support them?

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movielover said:

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Will this case bring change?

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calbear93 said:

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movielover said:

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Will this case bring change?

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I believe so. EPA case has already had chilling effect on the SEC. When the Chevron doctrine is overturned as I suspect it will, Congress will have to be more specific, and the courts will not give deference to "reasonable" adjudication of ambiguous law by the unelected agencies, which interpretation can swing wildly with obvious instability for consumers and businesses with each administration.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calbear93 said:

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movielover said:

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Will this case bring change?

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I believe so. EPA case has already had chilling effect on the SEC. When the Chevron doctrine is overturned as I suspect it will, Congress will have to be more specific, and the courts will not give deference to "reasonable" adjudication of ambiguous law by the unelected agencies, which interpretation can swing wildly with obvious instability for consumers and businesses with each administration.

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Your first problem is expecting Congress will have the competence to be more specific about anything. They can barely pass a budget …err… continued spending resolution and keep the government open.

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movielover said:

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Haven't you noticed that the Democrat party abandoned the middle class long ago?

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