Eastern Oregon Bear said:
When the facts aren't on your side, turn to made up scenarios. You think home invasions don't happen in areas Republicans govern?
Oski being Oski.
Shocker.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
When the facts aren't on your side, turn to made up scenarios. You think home invasions don't happen in areas Republicans govern?
DiabloWags said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:
When the facts aren't on your side, turn to made up scenarios. You think home invasions don't happen in areas Republicans govern?
Oski being Oski.
Shocker.
If multiple people misunderstand your prose, maybe you need to write more clearly.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:
When the facts aren't on your side, turn to made up scenarios. You think home invasions don't happen in areas Republicans govern?
Oski being Oski.
Shocker.
EOB isn't the only one who needs better reading comprehension. Diablo being Diablo. Shocker.
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Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:If multiple people misunderstand your prose, maybe you need to write more clearly.oski003 said:DiabloWags said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:
When the facts aren't on your side, turn to made up scenarios. You think home invasions don't happen in areas Republicans govern?
Oski being Oski.
Shocker.
EOB isn't the only one who needs better reading comprehension. Diablo being Diablo. Shocker.
bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
dimitrig said:bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
From my post:
"Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed."
bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
From my post:
"Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed."
Did the researchers similarly remove Republican voting counties in blue states as well?
bearister said:BREAKING: An Alameda County judge has just recused DA Price and the entire DA's office from prosecuting Butch Ford, facing a misdemeanor misconduct charge. Now the AG's office will review. Story forthcoming. BKGD: https://t.co/uADMzHmwpw
— The Berkeley Scanner (@BerkeleyScanner) January 3, 2024
*AG will never pursue this vindictive prosecution of a whistleblower, who will then promptly sue Madame DA.
BREAKING: The Alameda County district attorney's office has appealed a judge's decision to remove it from the misdemeanor case against Butch Ford, one of DA Pamela Price's biggest political opponents. READ MORE: https://t.co/0iWQKCghco
— The Berkeley Scanner (@BerkeleyScanner) January 9, 2024
dimitrig said:bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
From my post:
"Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed."
Did the researchers similarly remove Republican voting counties in blue states as well?
You mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" with the implication that they made the numbers look worse than they are.
Remove them from the statistics and red states still have a higher murder rate.
bearister said:
Interesting factoid: 104 murders in London in 2023 in a population of 9.6M
126 murders in Oakland in 2023 out of a population of 433K.
How does the NRA spin that? Asking for a friend.
bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
From my post:
"Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed."
Did the researchers similarly remove Republican voting counties in blue states as well?
You mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" with the implication that they made the numbers look worse than they are.
Remove them from the statistics and red states still have a higher murder rate.
I mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" because that's where the highest rates of violent crime are. They also tend to be run by Democratic mayors.
The researchers didn't make an apples to apples comparison when they removed blue cities in red states but failed to remove red counties in blue states.
dimitrig said:bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
From my post:
"Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed."
Did the researchers similarly remove Republican voting counties in blue states as well?
You mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" with the implication that they made the numbers look worse than they are.
Remove them from the statistics and red states still have a higher murder rate.
I mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" because that's where the highest rates of violent crime are. They also tend to be run by Democratic mayors.
The researchers didn't make an apples to apples comparison when they removed blue cities in red states but failed to remove red counties in blue states.
You are flailing.
"A report released today by the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice finds that, compared to the 35 California counties that voted Democratic in the 2020 presidential election, the state's 23 Republican-voting counties have higher rates of violent crime, including homicides."
"Homicide rates in Republican-voting counties are now 28 percent higher than in Democratic-voting counties."
"The homicide death rate among White people in Republican-voting counties is on par with people of color in Democratic-voting ones, challenging widely held beliefs about violence in urban communities of color."
Link:
Crime trends and violence worse in California's Republican-voting counties than Democratic-voting counties
sycasey said:
Is it really news that counties with more people have more crimes? This doesn't tell us anything about crime policies.
dimitrig said:bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:dimitrig said:bear2034 said:Quote:
Seems like the most likely top factor here is high-density urban areas having more crime, which has basically always been true. Get more people living on top of each other and you get more opportunity for crime.
And those high density urban areas in red states with high rates of violent crime tend to be blue.
From my post:
"Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed."
Did the researchers similarly remove Republican voting counties in blue states as well?
You mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" with the implication that they made the numbers look worse than they are.
Remove them from the statistics and red states still have a higher murder rate.
I mentioned "high density urban areas in red states" because that's where the highest rates of violent crime are. They also tend to be run by Democratic mayors.
The researchers didn't make an apples to apples comparison when they removed blue cities in red states but failed to remove red counties in blue states.
You are flailing.
"A report released today by the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice finds that, compared to the 35 California counties that voted Democratic in the 2020 presidential election, the state's 23 Republican-voting counties have higher rates of violent crime, including homicides."
"Homicide rates in Republican-voting counties are now 28 percent higher than in Democratic-voting counties."
"The homicide death rate among White people in Republican-voting counties is on par with people of color in Democratic-voting ones, challenging widely held beliefs about violence in urban communities of color."
Link:
Crime trends and violence worse in California's Republican-voting counties than Democratic-voting counties
NEW: Oakland, California business owner forced to take matters into his own hands after he got a 'busy' signal when he called 911 as thugs broke into his store.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 10, 2024
Oakland is like a 3rd world country.
After store owner Sam Jebril realized the police would be no help, he drove hisโฆ pic.twitter.com/t0XFpxR6i1
bear2034 said:NEW: Oakland, California business owner forced to take matters into his own hands after he got a 'busy' signal when he called 911 as thugs broke into his store.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 10, 2024
Oakland is like a 3rd world country.
After store owner Sam Jebril realized the police would be no help, he drove hisโฆ pic.twitter.com/t0XFpxR6i1
DiabloWags said:
3 DAYS and 3 HOMICIDES
Just another typical weekend in The Town.
Oakland sees deadly weekend, 3 homicides in just over 24 hours (yahoo.com)
The campaign working to recall DA Pamela Price has already collected 110,000 signatures โ more than enough to qualify for the ballot, @Recall_Price organizers said Thursday. READ MORE: https://t.co/TcHAX9D0rV
— The Berkeley Scanner (@BerkeleyScanner) January 18, 2024
๐๐๐ค๐ฅ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ง-๐-๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ซ ๐๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐๐จ ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ฆ๐:
— Dion Lim (@DionLimTV) January 21, 2024
The company just confirmed to me with this statement that theyโre closing due to ongoing crime & despite โtaking repeated steps to create safer conditions.โ
They say in part: โour Customers andโฆ pic.twitter.com/DRCHTUTKqB
I read this Daily Mail article thinking why don't people move? There's beautiful areas of Cali w/o this crime. If people can't afford to live in those areas, the midwest has lower crime *and* a lower cost of living than Oakland.
— Ryan (@America1st2024) January 21, 2024
Then I remembered this banger, "They will live inโฆ pic.twitter.com/wjTCMNZn4i
In-N-Out Burger in Oakland, California, will soon close its doors โ even though the location is profitable โ as rampant violent crime shakes the Democrat-run city pic.twitter.com/JRQeBeGf5s
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 22, 2024
bearister said:๐๐๐ค๐ฅ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ง-๐-๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ซ ๐๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐๐จ ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ฆ๐:
— Dion Lim (@DionLimTV) January 21, 2024
The company just confirmed to me with this statement that theyโre closing due to ongoing crime & despite โtaking repeated steps to create safer conditions.โ
They say in part: โour Customers andโฆ pic.twitter.com/DRCHTUTKqB
Chapman_is_Gone said:
What a disgusting city. The quality of live is so low they can't even keep a burger joint open.
Maybe not having fathers in 70% of the households is a bad idea after all...
In-N-Out isn't closing it's Alameda location.bear2034 said:In-N-Out Burger in Oakland, California, will soon close its doors โ even though the location is profitable โ as rampant violent crime shakes the Democrat-run city pic.twitter.com/JRQeBeGf5s
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 22, 2024
My buddy got his car broken into while he was getting a coffee at a Starbucks in Alameda. The thieves broke the glass windows and stole his company laptop that he foolishly left in the backseat. Other cars in the parking lot were also broken in to.
And Joe Biden isn't closing the border.Eastern Oregon Bear said:
In-N-Out isn't closing it's Alameda location.