The Town has major trouble

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Truck driving can pay very well, most local drivers get weekends off. Not fancy, but a way up. Drive for someone, couch serf, buy your own truck. But right now it's dry - Biden economy.
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Have you seen the OTR load boards the brokers paying 1.10 a mile that is criminal and unsafe. On top of working for free /taking a loss .

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Big C said:

tequila4kapp said:

going4roses said:

And then what ? The societal issues have almost reached a critical mass point. Can't lock everyone up without paying 10's -100's millions of dollars to house them. Them being poor homeless / mentally ill / small time criminals to be released in months or a 1 yr to be dangers to society again. There is no rehabilitation no pathways to being productive citizens…
If they can't get work to that makes enough to afford a place to live what are we spending $$$ for ?
Ohhh that's right the incentives to lock the up to be involuntary slaves in private prisons… the bad karma continues to build
Whats up with this language? Is there such a thing as a "voluntary slave"? And calling a criminal sent to prison a slave is an afront to actual slaves. Prisoners are criminals who had their day in court, legal representation, Constitutional rights, etc.

Yes, we spend the money to put criminals in jail. Sucks to be us but that's better than the alternative. Especially since we see the recidivism rates under the current system and since we know it isn't just petty criminals who are being related into society.



To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a voluntary slave. I wrote Jen Psaki, volunteering to be her slave, and received a form letter in reply, basically saying "thanks, but no thanks". So, no.
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movielover said:

Truck driving can pay very well, most local drivers get weekends off. Not fancy, but a way up. Drive for someone, couch serf, buy your own truck. But right now it's dry - Biden economy.

Given the topic, this misspelling was amusing.
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movielover said:

Truck driving can pay very well, most local drivers get weekends off. Not fancy, but a way up. Drive for someone, couch serf, buy your own truck. But right now it's dry - Biden economy.
One Saturday morning coffee friend drove trucks for years and now runs his own truck brokerage company. He's done well despite a slew of self induced life challenges. He's swamped with the amount of dump truck requests.
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82gradDLSdad said:

Big C said:

tequila4kapp said:

going4roses said:

And then what ? The societal issues have almost reached a critical mass point. Can't lock everyone up without paying 10's -100's millions of dollars to house them. Them being poor homeless / mentally ill / small time criminals to be released in months or a 1 yr to be dangers to society again. There is no rehabilitation no pathways to being productive citizens…
If they can't get work to that makes enough to afford a place to live what are we spending $$$ for ?
Ohhh that's right the incentives to lock the up to be involuntary slaves in private prisons… the bad karma continues to build
Whats up with this language? Is there such a thing as a "voluntary slave"? And calling a criminal sent to prison a slave is an afront to actual slaves. Prisoners are criminals who had their day in court, legal representation, Constitutional rights, etc.

Yes, we spend the money to put criminals in jail. Sucks to be us but that's better than the alternative. Especially since we see the recidivism rates under the current system and since we know it isn't just petty criminals who are being related into society.



To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a voluntary slave. I wrote Jen Psaki, volunteering to be her slave, and received a form letter in reply, basically saying "thanks, but no thanks". So, no.
Jen Psaki? Can I add her to the Big C I don't want to be right list?

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Big C said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Big C said:

tequila4kapp said:

going4roses said:

And then what ? The societal issues have almost reached a critical mass point. Can't lock everyone up without paying 10's -100's millions of dollars to house them. Them being poor homeless / mentally ill / small time criminals to be released in months or a 1 yr to be dangers to society again. There is no rehabilitation no pathways to being productive citizens…
If they can't get work to that makes enough to afford a place to live what are we spending $$$ for ?
Ohhh that's right the incentives to lock the up to be involuntary slaves in private prisons… the bad karma continues to build
Whats up with this language? Is there such a thing as a "voluntary slave"? And calling a criminal sent to prison a slave is an afront to actual slaves. Prisoners are criminals who had their day in court, legal representation, Constitutional rights, etc.

Yes, we spend the money to put criminals in jail. Sucks to be us but that's better than the alternative. Especially since we see the recidivism rates under the current system and since we know it isn't just petty criminals who are being related into society.



To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a voluntary slave. I wrote Jen Psaki, volunteering to be her slave, and received a form letter in reply, basically saying "thanks, but no thanks". So, no.
Jen Psaki? Can I add her to the Big C I don't want to be right list?

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He certainly has your permission to add her to your list.

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bearister said:

Big C said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Big C said:

tequila4kapp said:

going4roses said:

And then what ? The societal issues have almost reached a critical mass point. Can't lock everyone up without paying 10's -100's millions of dollars to house them. Them being poor homeless / mentally ill / small time criminals to be released in months or a 1 yr to be dangers to society again. There is no rehabilitation no pathways to being productive citizens…
If they can't get work to that makes enough to afford a place to live what are we spending $$$ for ?
Ohhh that's right the incentives to lock the up to be involuntary slaves in private prisons… the bad karma continues to build
Whats up with this language? Is there such a thing as a "voluntary slave"? And calling a criminal sent to prison a slave is an afront to actual slaves. Prisoners are criminals who had their day in court, legal representation, Constitutional rights, etc.

Yes, we spend the money to put criminals in jail. Sucks to be us but that's better than the alternative. Especially since we see the recidivism rates under the current system and since we know it isn't just petty criminals who are being related into society.



To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a voluntary slave. I wrote Jen Psaki, volunteering to be her slave, and received a form letter in reply, basically saying "thanks, but no thanks". So, no.
Jen Psaki? Can I add her to the Big C I don't want to be right list?

bearister is a couple steps ahead of you (and me)


He certainly has your permission to add her to your list.


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So Price's support was 53% in her 2022 election and it collapsed to just 34%.

Interestingly enough, the voters who turned against her were those who lived in the poorest areas of the county, and mostly populated by blacks and latino's.
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DiabloWags said:

So Price's support was 53% in her 2022 election and it collapsed to just 34%.

Interestingly enough, the voters who turned against her were those who lived in the poorest areas of the county, and mostly populated by blacks and latino's.



The solid one third that will back anybody - on each side.
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If memory serves only about 30% of the electorate turned out for the election that installed her. She got tossed in a General Election with much higher voter turnout, especially from East county which buried her.

She left the county with some substantial pending liabilities: two race discrimination cases filed by Asian employees of her office and likely a defamation and malicious prosecution case by Butch Ford, a top prosecutor and political rival in the office, that she filed criminal charges against that were later tossed by the AG (after Madame DA and her office were recused from handling the prosecution). She is the gift that will keep giving.

*My personal favorite moment of her short reign was in January, 2023, when at an anti police rally in downtown Oakland she announced from the stage (when referring to the Deputy DAs), "I'm going to fire all the mother f@ucks." What she had not been advised of at that time was that the Deputy DAs had feared in the run up to the election that they would all get fired without cause if she won and replaced by former public defenders whose only mission would be to burn the office to the ground. They protected themselves by joining the Teamsters Union. She was never able to fire even one prosecutor that became a Teamster.

My 2nd favorite moment was when she tried to have Sturdy Golden Bear, Emilie Raguso (Berkeley Scanner), physically removed from a press conference because of her truthful reporting about Madame DA. Her flunkies had to remind her it was a First Amendment violation to remove Ms. Raguso.
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A lot of experienced DAs transferred to the City. But they still have soft-on-crime judges.
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Cal88 said:


Great story and man.
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Approx at 3:15am i was awakened by OPD on the loudspeaker of cruiser telling suspects in a Jeep SRT to pull over… they didn't comply as they both drove down the block. 5 mins later 3 infinity's pulled (all Hispanics with ski masks) in the tire shop parking lot. 5 mins later it was 100-200 people mostly Hispanic/Asians setting up for a slideshow/intersection take over ( Not a Sideshow !!!). The cruiser didn't tell dispatchers the location of the building crowd ? The slideshow/take over ensures. I called opd , and after being on hold for 2-3 mins a dispatcher asks what's the reason I'm calling( not going to lie I was snarky because the burning the rubber /screeching tires was so loud I could barely hear her) at that point I walked around the corner to get a better look of the magnitude. So many thoughts cars parked up and down with vehicles w/o driver's the intersection was blocked off. OPD needs to hire my team(shameless consultants plug) asap if they ever want to deal with this and its related problems. Both Republicans and Democrats caused this problem.
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Out of 200+ people 75+ parked cars I saw no Black people involved and 3-4 spectating. I asked a couple of them if they were the from Oakland "No".
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"A policy Newsom described as an "outlier," Oakland only allows police chases when a suspect is armed with a gun or involved in a forcible violent crime. The governor pointed out that unlike in other cities, Oakland police cannot pursue people suspected of committing many felonies or any misdemeanor, such as reckless driving, sideshow activity, and driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol."

Calif. governor calls on Oakland to allow more police pursuits, stop suspects from 'fleeing with impunity'


https://www.police1.com/law-enforcement-policies/calif-governor-calls-on-oakland-to-allow-more-police-pursuits-stop-suspects-from-fleeing-with-impunity

*Call the CHP. They have authorization to pursue. They are the only ones breaking up sideshows/slideshows.
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They need to find a "pursuit policy" that's a compromise between catching bad guys and not causing even more harm to innocent bystanders. I don't know what that is, but I'd take a look at what other departments around the country are doing.

Ignorant question: What's the difference between a "sideshow" and a "slideshow"?
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Big C said:


They need to find a "pursuit policy" that's a compromise between catching bad guys and not causing even more harm to innocent bystanders. I don't know what that is, but I'd take a look at what other departments around the country are doing.

Ignorant question: What's the difference between a "sideshow" and a "slideshow"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideshow_(automobile_exhibition)
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They need to find a "pursuit policy" that's a compromise between catching bad guys and not causing even more harm to innocent bystanders. I don't know what that is, but I'd take a look at what other departments around the country are doing.

Ignorant question: What's the difference between a "sideshow" and a "slideshow"?


Not ignorant at all. I wrote my thesis on the cultural phenomena known as the "Oakland sideshow" . Slideshows/takeovers are what the sideshow has morphed ( i say devolved) into. A few of the biggest differences are demographics of both spectators and exhibitionists /types of vehicles involved/ ethos and or reasoning of why. Similarities burning rubber /crowds.
I also taught a course on The Sideshows. I have also been acknowledged as a resident expert by a couple of publications.
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I was just down by Lake Merritt. What about the multiple dirt bikes pulling wheelies and such. Does that have a name? Seems dangerous as hell, but I never hear of any resulting bad accidents.
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They passed down my block earlier lol. That is out of my lane but I know a couple associates that are affiliated with them … I have asked what's up or why etc and I get some wild but understandable responses from society doesn't care about us (especially when we were children) thus they don't care about anyone. Then some of them are from well to do areas in contra costa ie Walnut Creek and almo/danville and seek approval of societies cast offs/ the ability to hide among others and behave as pseudo outlaws where as they would stick out in there own neighborhoods.
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going4roses said:

Big C said:


They need to find a "pursuit policy" that's a compromise between catching bad guys and not causing even more harm to innocent bystanders. I don't know what that is, but I'd take a look at what other departments around the country are doing.

Ignorant question: What's the difference between a "sideshow" and a "slideshow"?


Not ignorant at all. I wrote my thesis on the cultural phenomena known as the "Oakland sideshow" . Slideshows/takeovers are what the sideshow has morphed ( i say devolved) into. A few of the biggest differences are demographics of both spectators and exhibitionists /types of vehicles involved/ ethos and or reasoning of why. Similarities burning rubber /crowds.
I also taught a course on The Sideshows. I have also been acknowledged as a resident expert by a couple of publications.

If I'm understanding you, "sideshows" are more cultural, less craziness, whereas "slideshows" are just all about that action, boss? Steal 'n' slide, baby!
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Big C said:

going4roses said:

Big C said:


They need to find a "pursuit policy" that's a compromise between catching bad guys and not causing even more harm to innocent bystanders. I don't know what that is, but I'd take a look at what other departments around the country are doing.

Ignorant question: What's the difference between a "sideshow" and a "slideshow"?


Not ignorant at all. I wrote my thesis on the cultural phenomena known as the "Oakland sideshow" . Slideshows/takeovers are what the sideshow has morphed ( i say devolved) into. A few of the biggest differences are demographics of both spectators and exhibitionists /types of vehicles involved/ ethos and or reasoning of why. Similarities burning rubber /crowds.
I also taught a course on The Sideshows. I have also been acknowledged as a resident expert by a couple of publications.

If I'm understanding you, "sideshows" are more cultural, less craziness, whereas "slideshows" are just all about that action, boss? Steal 'n' slide, baby!



Sideshows were a release of muscular tension see Fanon (that the colonized body and mind harbor). slideshows/takeovers are dominated by Hispanics and other non Black folks. It's cultural appropriation on many levels. When it changed from frame up built old school v8 high performance vehicles to stolen infinity's and chargers the ethos changed from a celebration to a Drifting Fast &Furious type thing. Different ethos… different thing

Real donuts are executed with the front wheels staying on a dime, this takes a seasoned driver to pull off. Giant drift circles requires no real driving skill.
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Absent Father's / baby Daddys.
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Obama said a kid with no daddy is 5x more likely to be poor, 9x more likely to dropout, 20x more likely to go to jail.
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movielover said:

Absent Father's / baby Daddys.

I feel like this (^) is a subpar post. Starting with the faulty punctuation/spelling, all the way through to the racist tropes.

Maybe you can do better / be better.
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No. He can't.
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movielover said:

Absent Father's / baby Daddys.


Actually that's lies/racist tropes as usual.Black fathers are more likely to be in the home raising their children than any other demographic per capita. You just believe racist propaganda and assume
Furthermore who created the systems and policies that exacerbated those issues ? Who benefited from the systems of oppression/terrorism/destruction ? The Black Family has been under attack since the 1400's

Slideshow/takeovers have virtually no Black people at all so what is your point ? Think it through
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going4roses said:

movielover said:

Absent Father's / baby Daddys.


Actually that's lies/racist tropes as usual.Black fathers are more likely to be in the home raising their children than any other demographic per capita. You just believe racist propaganda and assume
Furthermore who created the systems and policies that exacerbated those issues ? Who benefited from the systems of oppression/terrorism/destruction ? The Black Family has been under attack since the 1400's

Slideshow/takeovers have virtually no Black people at all so what is your point ? Think it through


Do you have a link to the study that shows that usual.Black fathers are more likely to be in the home raising their children than any other demographic per capita?

I know there is a 2013 study that shows that Black fathers that live with their children are generally more involved in the day to day activities of their children than white and Hispanic fathers, but that is hardly the same thing.
 
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