The Town has major trouble

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movielover
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Who are "your people"?
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So , OPD and Oakland's DOT has done little to no research on the "takeover/slideshow" activity . No wonder its getting worse and worse ... remember the plastic dots they thought would remedy the "lawless visually violent activity"

How can one expect to change a situation if they don't know or understand what is a play ?

DEI hires ???

Geez us h Christ

Why wouldn't they hire an expert ?
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movielover
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If they arrest the perps or confiscate cars, they'll be accused of racism - if they're POC.

I brought a friend to a taqueria on International late one night, and some loud donuts were spun in the middle of the intersection a block or two from where we ate.

What's at play? Youth (youth is invincible), need for excitement (natural), no respect for laws or safety, some only modestly employed (so they can stay up late), no healthy hobbies, no Father's, and no vision / plan for the future.
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movielover said:

If they arrest the perps or confiscate cars, they'll be accused of racism - if they're POC.

I brought a friend to a taqueria on International late one night, and some loud donuts were spun in the middle of the intersection a block or two from where we ate.

What's at play? Youth (youth is invincible), need for excitement (natural), no respect for laws or safety, some only modestly employed (so they can stay up late), no healthy hobbies, no Father's, and no vision / plan for the future.



Ic you are going to continue to be a racist ignorant liar. Racism has your mind all messed up to the point where logic/truth is non existent.

Knock it off ... You /your mindset is reason this world is cooked.


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movielover
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What are your grand insights about young folks conducting side shows?

Oedipus complex? Misguided bc the Raiders and As left?
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> Knock it off ... You /your mindset is reason this world is cooked.

sorry, nope, literally the reason this world is cooked is slow motion but relentless CO2 trends, and more importantly nobody (in power) cares
# a river in egypt
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smh said:

> Knock it off ... You /your mindset is reason this world is cooked.

sorry, nope, literally the reason this world is cooked is slow motion but relentless CO2 trends, and more importantly nobody (in power) cares
# a river in egypt



Common sense leaders would thin forests, cut fire trails, conduct controlled burns, fill reservoirs, hire competent managers, and think proactively.

That would have prevented Trillions of tons of CO2 from needlessly being dumped into our atmosphere the past three decades.

It would also mean healthy forests, cheaper lumber, and an established - though smaller - lumber industry.
going4roses
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smh said:

> Knock it off ... You /your mindset is reason this world is cooked.

sorry, nope, literally the reason this world is cooked is slow motion but relentless CO2 trends, and more importantly nobody (in power) cares
# a river in egypt



Ha ha … you know I wasn't using cooked in that manner lol
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movielover said:

smh said:

> Knock it off ... You /your mindset is reason this world is cooked.

sorry, nope, literally the reason this world is cooked is slow motion but relentless CO2 trends, and more importantly nobody (in power) cares
# a river in egypt



Common sense leaders would thin forests, cut fire trails, conduct controlled burns, fill reservoirs, hire competent managers, and think proactively.

That would have prevented Trillions of tons of CO2 from needlessly being dumped into our atmosphere the past three decades.

It would also mean healthy forests, cheaper lumber, and an established - though smaller - lumber industry.
Yeah! Controlled burns don't release ANY CO2 into the atmosphere!

By the way, we DO fill reservoir almost every year, rain and snow permitting. We just don't do it in January.
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Let me be more specific:
- first, thin out trees, including unwanted varieties (in some areas, too many pines)
- clear out ladder fuels where possible and cluttering small trees
- then small, controlled burns (including taking out manzanita)

Probably a fraction of 1% of what a PP fire emits.

No, the last two years we didn't fill the San Luis Reservoir all the way; flood irrigation is limited; as is replenishing our aquifers.

Last year snowpack and rainfall were at about 110% of normal, where Central Valley farms got 40% of contractually allotted water, and then 10% in June (too late to plan).
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The Pamela Price Era Being Scrubbed

Ursula Jones Dickson becomes Alameda County's new DA


https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2025/02/20/courts/ursula-jones-dickson-appointed-new-alameda-county-district-attorney/

The fun bits:

"During her first full day on the job, Alameda County's new district attorney, Ursula Jones Dickson, wasted no time in taking action to get "back to business."
That included having Eric Lewis, chief inspector under recalled DA Pamela Price, walked out of the building, office sources told The Scanner. His replacement has yet to be named.
The DA's office did not respond Wednesday to a late-day inquiry about Lewis' current employment status.
But an internal investigation at his prior job found that he committed misconduct when he was deputy chief at Oakland PD and then retired before he could be fired.

….. Jones Dickson said she also plans to survey all the prosecutors in the office, including the many hired by Price, to find out about their needs and goals.

"We have a lot of lawyers who have not done DA work before," she said.
That includes many prosecutors who do not know how to do a jury trial or a preliminary hearing, she said.*

…… Another early order of business, she said Tuesday, would be to hire a forensic auditor to comb through office finances."**

*The Trump Justice Dept. has the same issue as the DA.'s Office under Price: Ideologue loyalists that literally can't find their arse in a courtroom using both hands.

**Did any money go out the back door in a wheel barrow? We shall see.
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https://oaklandside.org/2025/02/14/oakland-downtown-apartments-foreclosures-real-estate/

When these projects started I wondered to myself who was going to be able to afford the rent. In 2017 did my Land Use final project on the MacArthur Bart housing TOD and the subsequent changes in Height allowance which accommodated the tower. The mix use space on the street level has never been leased...alot of dwellings that are unaffordable

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Savings and Karma at the same time!
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Madame DA is the gift that keeps giving:

Citing Price phone call to defense attorney, judge strikes gun count from murder case


https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2025/02/24/courts/pamela-price-phone-call-jennie-otis-jamal-thomas-case/

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

Recalled Alameda County DA Pamela Price launches "unfiltered" podcast - CBS San Francisco


https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/pamela-price-unfiltered-podcast-alameda-county-district-attorney-recalled/
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"A year after its launch, Gov. Gavin Newsom's California Highway Patrol surge operation aimed at tackling property theft and violent crime in the Bay Area has resulted in the recovery of 3,217 stolen vehicles, the arrest of 1,823 suspects and seizure of 170 illegal firearms."
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Geez h Christ I thought in Oakland lol.

Will the DA prosecute and seek prison time ? Are there enough beds with influx of homeless people being incarcerated?

Which leads me to the next question has anyone heard or read of any of the mayoral candidates having a plan for Livable wage jobs and affordable housing (subsidized) aka keeping people from becoming homeless thus adding more people to the homeless count.

I don't know if any these candidates can bring visible change for 3-5 yrs because the problems made decades ago are now showing themselves. Policy decisions made in the 50's 60's 70's… / American is political nepotism are the root cause of the problems. Can anyone who has been a part of Oakland politics in good faith be tasked with fixing problems they allowed on their watch ? Whomever is responsible from a lot to a little needs to step aside. Oakland could be ground zero for global change. Gotta roll up the sleeves and get to work
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Our officers have been conditioned to do as little as possibleto stay out of trouble"


https://www.oaklandreport.org/p/our-officers-have-been-conditioned


"At a January Police Commission meeting, Oakland Police Chief Floyd Mitchell described what he called the "weaponization of the discipline process."

"If you make a mistake in the Oakland Police Department… you are going to get allegations levied against you that will ruin your career and your opportunity to work anywhere else in the United States. Our officers have been conditioned to do as little as possibleto stay out of trouble. And that is a problem."

Mitchell's remarks highlight concerns that excessive disciplinary measures are discouraging proactive policing and negatively impacting officer performance.

Oakland's police oversight policies have led to an excessive number of disciplinary investigations of officers, even for minor infractionsfar more than any other city we examined. 92% of officer investigations are not "sustained," meaning that the allegation was untrue, within policy, or lacked evidence. Of those that are sustained, 75% are for minor offenses such as use of profanity or conducting personal business while on duty. Nonetheless, they become part of an officer's permanent personnel record, the police logs, and supervisory files, and cast a long shadow of fear over officers."
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This is all cap(propaganda) so deceitful smh. Lies on lies and leaving out so much crucial context.

So if they can't Oscar grant unarmed people they can't police the community? GTFOH

Yea old style policing incites unrest … demographics of OPD and demographics of the population not being mentioned is big red flag.
Hispanic officers wild not police Hispanic youth like White n Black cops police Black bodies.
I saw clips from the slideshow/takeover on Claremont a couple weeks ago I saw 1 person that may have been black everyone else Hispanics/arab/ Asians out of 100-200 people.
The Original Sideshows had rules to be adhered to … now it's mad max school. I have been studying some other cities around the country dealing with slideshow/takeover activity. I don't know if those tactics would produce the similar results here. I learned today loren agreed to spend money on anti takeover traffic mitigation that Failed miserably because he along with lose tasked wit dealing with the problem did have clue ( good money wasted).

Unless the next mayor brings close to livable wage jobs that can afford to feed cloth and house individuals in Oakland the poverty will continue to consume all band aid efforts(waste of time and taxpayer $$$)

Side note of the mayoral candidates who voted/ allowed/appoved the A's /Jeff fisher deal. And how did Oakland officials not know MLB had no intentions of keeping the A's in Oakland ? ( weak government)
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https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/barbara-lee-wins-oakland-mayor-special-election-20279267.php


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Say hello to Barbara Lee.
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It's a year gig, election again in 2026. Might be better to lose this one.
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It doesn't matter who the mayor is until Oakland hires a minimum of 200 more police:

Oakland police staffing levels | KTVU FOX 2


https://www.ktvu.com/news/oaklands-police-staffing-levels-worse-than-you-may-think-report-finds

To anyone that argues adding an adequate number of police will not have a positive impact on the city, I submit the following for their consideration:

"The CHP's increased presence in Oakland, through surge operations, has led to a reduction in crime, including a significant decrease in homicides and a notable decrease in violent crime overall. Specific results from the surge operations include thousands of arrests, the recovery of numerous stolen vehicles, and the seizure of firearms. The CHP's efforts have also targeted organized crime, carjackings, and sideshows.

Specific Impacts:
Reduced Homicides:
Oakland experienced a 34% drop in homicides after identifying individuals at high risk for gun violence, according to ABC7 San Francisco.

Decrease in Violent Crime:
Overall, violent crime in Oakland, including homicides, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults, fell 19% from 2023 to 2024.

Arrests and Recovered Vehicles:
The CHP's surge operations have resulted in thousands of arrests and the recovery of a large number of stolen vehicles, including a significant number of carjacked vehicles.

Seizure of Firearms:
The CHP has also seized a substantial number of firearms, including illegal weapons, according to the California Highway Patrol.

Focus on Specific Crimes:
The CHP's operations have targeted specific crimes like carjackings, sideshows, and organized crime, leading to arrests and recoveries in those areas."
AI Summary

*This does not address the root cause of crime, which needs addressing. It addresses the crime, which if not addressed, will turn Oakland into a wasteland.
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Tough task for one person even with low expectations. If Lee can turn around Oakland, forget the California governorship, she will be the next Democratic presidential candidate.
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Turning around Oakland is a bigger job than President and as a daughter of Oakland more important
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LA homeless PhD describes life on skid row.

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You believe any of this ?
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Cal88
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Yes.

Do you think this was staged, or that the woman was lying? She might have exaggerated her academic credentials (or not), but from my experience volunteering at soup kitchens, there are many people on skid row with college degrees.
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oski003 said:

I am neither Obama nor Rob Smith.


I guess Vivian Vances son is not still banned.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
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A good Town story:

W. Kamau Bell is AWESOME!

Comedian & 'Celebrity Jeopardy!' winner W. Kamau Bell directs $1 million winnings to public schools through DonorsChoose


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/comedian-celebrity-jeopardy-winner-w-161500197.html

" This morning at Castlemont High School in Oakland, CA, Bell and DonorsChoose announced that the first portion of his winnings will fund all public school teacher requests on DonorsChoose in Oakland where Bell and his family live."

*He has always reminded me a bit of how Chuck Muncie looked when I was at Cal.
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Two steps forward, one step back: Oakland school district finally leaves state receivership, but the school board decides to "celebrate" the occasion by suddenly dismissing the popular, hometown favorite superintendent in a surprise move.



Hard to say why they had to move to get rid of her so early and potentially pay a buyout (her contract said she was going to leave in a year or two anyway), but if you look at the voting it's the four teachers' union backed candidates that voted for it, which indicates that it's the union that wanted it. Presumably they want the board to install a new, more union-friendly supe.

Honestly, the more I've looked into this district the more I think that union is an absolute menace. They worked hard to prevent schools from reopening after COVID, they staged a two-week strike for totally vague reasons two years ago (even though the district had already offered the raises they wanted), and are now angling to do another one because they claim the district wouldn't produce some documents in time. I've also seen reports of their leaders harassing principals in their offices, blocking doors and trying to prevent them from leaving.
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Two steps forward, one step back: Oakland school district finally leaves state receivership, but the school board decides to "celebrate" the occasion by suddenly dismissing the popular, hometown favorite superintendent in a surprise move.



Hard to say why they had to move to get rid of her so early and potentially pay a buyout (her contract said she was going to leave in a year or two anyway), but if you look at the voting it's the four teachers' union backed candidates that voted for it, which indicates that it's the union that wanted it. Presumably they want the board to install a new, more union-friendly supe.

Honestly, the more I've looked into this district the more I think that union is an absolute menace. They worked hard to prevent schools from reopening after COVID, they staged a two-week strike for totally vague reasons two years ago (even though the district had already offered the raises they wanted), and are now angling to do another one because they claim the district wouldn't produce some documents in time. I've also seen reports of their leaders harassing principals in their offices, blocking doors and trying to prevent them from leaving.


This is the type of stuff that inspires folks to hate the Democratic party.
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Two steps forward, one step back: Oakland school district finally leaves state receivership, but the school board decides to "celebrate" the occasion by suddenly dismissing the popular, hometown favorite superintendent in a surprise move.



Hard to say why they had to move to get rid of her so early and potentially pay a buyout (her contract said she was going to leave in a year or two anyway), but if you look at the voting it's the four teachers' union backed candidates that voted for it, which indicates that it's the union that wanted it. Presumably they want the board to install a new, more union-friendly supe.

Honestly, the more I've looked into this district the more I think that union is an absolute menace. They worked hard to prevent schools from reopening after COVID, they staged a two-week strike for totally vague reasons two years ago (even though the district had already offered the raises they wanted), and are now angling to do another one because they claim the district wouldn't produce some documents in time. I've also seen reports of their leaders harassing principals in their offices, blocking doors and trying to prevent them from leaving.


This is the type of stuff that inspires folks to hate the Democratic party.
I will say that nothing turned people in big cities against teachers' unions more than the end of COVID. In most places that reopened schools very late, a teachers' union was the main reason. Democratic politicians have not yet caught up to this shift.

But that said, it's more than just "Democrats." It's more a classic tale of a powerful interest group maneuvering to get its way against the better interests of the public. That kind of thing happens all over the political spectrum. In fact, part of the reason I really dislike what's been happening in the local school district is that the tactics remind me of how the Trump people operate: decide on an ideological goal, ignore all available evidence against the policy, and dismiss the obvious harm your aggressive tactics are creating. This is in service of totally different goals than what Trump wants, but the bad governance is similar.
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This is the type of stuff that inspires folks to hate the Democratic party.


Is there a link to the list of "stuff" that inspires the world to hate the Republican Party? Asking for a friend.

Tracking the Trump Administration's Harmful Executive Actions | Congressman Steve Cohen


http://cohen.house.gov/TrumpAdminTracker
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oski003 said:



This is the type of stuff that inspires folks to hate the Democratic party.


Is there a link to the list of "stuff" that inspires the world to hate the Republican Party? Asking for a friend.

Tracking the Trump Administration's Harmful Executive Actions | Congressman Steve Cohen


http://cohen.house.gov/TrumpAdminTracker


One thing that inspires me to dislike the Republican party is that many Southerners and other Americans pretend Trump is religious and say nothing when he tweets insults and hate Easter morning instead of doing good deeds and/or going to Church. Trump should have not have won the Republican primary either time.
 
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