The Non-Yogi Israel-Palestine war thread

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10:16a, 10/17/24
Reports are starting to leak that the Israeli security council has been told it is Sinwar. If so, rot in hell terrorist scum.
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11:22a, 10/17/24
Oh yeah, that's definitely Sinwar. Knocked out in Rafah, the place where the brilliants minds of Biden and Harris demanded the IDF not enter because they are very astute at foreign affairs.

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12:01p, 10/17/24

Do teeth lie?
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In reply to bear2034 • 12:18p, 10/17/24
I'm still waiting for Catturd and Poso to offer their informed and not at all biased opinions before I make a decision.





Or, IDGAF. Just more death and destruction in the Holy Land. Yay, religion!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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In reply to AunBear89 • 12:20p, 10/17/24
AunBear89 said:
I'm still waiting for Catturd and Poso to offer their informed and not at all biased opinions before I make a decision.
No one is waiting for you to make a decision, it either happened or it didn't.
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12:23p, 10/17/24
We don't need to go there (teeth photos). Israel has reportedly confirmed his death. They have his DNA from when he was a prisoner and have presumably matched samples.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 12:27p, 10/17/24
But 2034 wanted to post his war porn.
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In reply to AunBear89 • 12:31p, 10/17/24

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East is a UN agency that supports the relief and human development of Palestinian refugees.

Real or fake?

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In reply to bear2034 • 12:37p, 10/17/24
The document is likely fake/forged. I doubt very much someone like that would be carrying identification documents that were legit.
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In reply to AunBear89 • 12:45p, 10/17/24
AunBear89 said:
The document is likely fake/forged. I doubt very much someone like that would be carrying identification documents that were legit.
It's on the Internet. It must be true.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 12:47p, 10/17/24
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
AunBear89 said:
The document is likely fake/forged. I doubt very much someone like that would be carrying identification documents that were legit.
It's on the Internet. It must be true.
Is a part of you sad that it might be true?
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12:48p, 10/17/24
Good on President Biden.
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Upon hearing the news of Sinwar's death, President Biden said: "This is a good day for Israel, for the United States, and for the world."

"Israel has had every right to eliminate the leadership and military structure of Hamas. Hamas is no longer capable of carrying out another October 7," he said.

Biden said he would be speaking with Netanyahu other Israeli leaders to congratulate them.
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In reply to bear2034 • 12:56p, 10/17/24
No. A part of me is sad that you already believe it is true, and that, in some way, impugns teachers all over the world.


But I left that part of me in the toilet and flushed it away.
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In reply to AunBear89 • 12:58p, 10/17/24
AunBear89 said:
No. A part of me is sad that you already believe it is true, and that, in some way, impugns teachers all over the world.


But I left that part of me in the toilet and flushed it away.
I was asking Eastern Oregon Bear, unless you and him are the same person.
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In reply to bear2034 • 1:03p, 10/17/24
I answered, because you needed to be smacked down again.

Bad BearFarce!
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In reply to AunBear89 • 1:09p, 10/17/24
Should we all wait for you until you confirm that Sinwar died?
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In reply to AunBear89 • 1:19p, 10/17/24
AunBear89 said:
I answered, because you needed to be smacked down again.

Bad BearFarce!
Thanks for the assist. I pick and choose which one of bear2034 pointless and picayune questions I'll answer because it just encourages him and wastes my time. Besides, I'm at work and my boss gets cranky if I'm not getting my work done in a timely fashion.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 1:24p, 10/17/24
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
AunBear89 said:
I answered, because you needed to be smacked down again.

Bad BearFarce!
Thanks for the assist. I pick and choose which one of bear2034 pointless and picayune questions I'll answer because it just encourages him and wastes my time. Besides, I'm at work and my boss gets cranky if I'm not getting my work done in a timely fashion.
Tell your boss the truth, that you're wasting the company's time by posting all day on the Bearinsider, arguing with Russian bots.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 1:29p, 10/17/24
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Good on President Biden.
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Upon hearing the news of Sinwar's death, President Biden said: "This is a good day for Israel, for the United States, and for the world."

"Israel has had every right to eliminate the leadership and military structure of Hamas. Hamas is no longer capable of carrying out another October 7," he said.

Biden said he would be speaking with Netanyahu other Israeli leaders to congratulate them.

Biden and Kamala can take credit for this to happen under their watch and not Trump's, unless of course, they fear reprisal from their voter base.
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In reply to bear2034 • 1:32p, 10/17/24
bear2034 said:
tequila4kapp said:
Good on President Biden.
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Upon hearing the news of Sinwar's death, President Biden said: "This is a good day for Israel, for the United States, and for the world."

"Israel has had every right to eliminate the leadership and military structure of Hamas. Hamas is no longer capable of carrying out another October 7," he said.

Biden said he would be speaking with Netanyahu other Israeli leaders to congratulate them.

Biden and Kamala can take credit for this to happen under their watch and not Trump's, unless of course, they fear reprisal from their voter base.
I perceive that today's words reflect Biden's actual world view / policy preference. It is election season and D's need Michigan so...**** happens.
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1:58p, 10/18/24

Wow, tough s*** for Hamas, eh? It's got to be tough, losing your leading terrorist like that...


Maybe both sides can use this as a step towards peace. And maybe Cal Football can run the table! (each of these seem equally likely)
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In reply to Big C • 2:03p, 10/18/24
Big C said:

Maybe both sides can use this as a step towards peace. And maybe Cal Football can run the table! (each of these seem equally likely)
Man, wouldn't this be nice?
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In reply to Big C • 2:24p, 10/18/24
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Maybe both sides can use this as a step towards peace.

I certainly hope that this leads Israel to draw down their war in Gaza. Not sure what else they can hope to accomplish there. We'll see.
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In reply to sycasey • 5:30p, 10/18/24
I believe their stated goal is: kill them all.


Or, words to that effect.
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In reply to AunBear89 • 5:53p, 10/18/24
AunBear89 said:
I believe their stated goal is: kill them all.

Or, words to that effect.

As long as "them" is Hamas / Hezbollah, yes
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In reply to AunBear89 • 6:51p, 10/18/24
AunBear89 said:
I believe their stated goal is: kill them all.


Or, words to that effect.

Yes, when I asked for a number of Palestinians deaths that would be considered crossing the line and the largest number I gave was 1M dead the response was: "Until Hamas is wiped out." There is no line.
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In reply to bearister • 8:07p, 10/18/24
bearister said:
AunBear89 said:
I believe their stated goal is: kill them all.


Or, words to that effect.

Yes, when I asked for a number of Palestinians deaths that would be considered crossing the line and the largest number I gave was 1M dead the response was: "Until Hamas is wiped out." There is no line.
For me it's not a math equation; there is no number because Hamas must go. But I also don't see why Israel can't do something like caravan all non-combatants out into the desert and have refugee camps away from war, then go to town making dead terrorists. When done, assume rebuild responsibilities in Gaza and return the non-combatants.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 8:20p, 10/18/24
At least you're trying. The Israeli response would be that the Israeli casualty count would be unacceptably high carrying out that more humanitarian invasion plan.

Police make a similar argument when asked why they didn't try to shoot an attacker approaching them with a bat or knife below center body mass.
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In reply to Superstar • 8:35p, 10/18/24
More of a "They are both equally evil so I can't vote for either argument" than a vote for tRump argument.

Bibi and the other Right Wingers know tRump will be more accommodating to their plans.
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8:50p, 10/18/24

Two-thirds of Palestinians feel Oct 7 was a good thing. Nearly half support Hamas when polled.

Israel should drive the entire Gaza population into Egypt and annex the entire territory. Palestinians are scum... nobody in the civilized world should care what happens to them.
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 9:55p, 10/18/24
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Palestinians are scum... nobody in the civilized world should care what happens to them.
This is . . . disturbing.
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In reply to sycasey • 10:07p, 10/18/24
I think he should not mince his words and say what he really means.
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In reply to bearister • 9:00a, 10/19/24
bearister said:
> There is no line.
but there should be, must be, obviously
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 9:42a, 10/19/24
Chapman_is_Gone said:

Two-thirds of Palestinians feel Oct 7 was a good thing. Nearly half support Hamas when polled.

Israel should drive the entire Gaza population into Egypt and annex the entire territory. Palestinians are scum... nobody in the civilized world should care what happens to them.
The Palestinian people elected Hamas but that was their only choice other than the PA, who was rejected for their profound corruption. Since then Palestinians have had 20 years of terror and brain washing. They are not free to think otherwise.

Israel has to have a partner to make peace / 2 state solution work. That means accepting Israel's right to exist. That partner does not currently exist. We have to hope the Palestinian people can get there once the yoke of Hamas oppression is lifted. A post Hamas transition state ala the US with Japan post WW2 may be necessary. Cultural and regional stuff maybe makes that a pollyanna-ish concept. The Palestinians haven't historically been easy … they've been removed from Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait, Egypt and maybe others for sewing instability. But I hope for something like that over accepting indiscriminate murder of civilians.
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