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7:24p, 7/31/24
Oh boy.

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In reply to movielover • 9:42p, 7/31/24
movielover said:
Yes, to whom do children belong?
The parents or the state?
Of course, proto- or full totalitarian societies will say "the state."
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In reply to movielover • 9:46p, 7/31/24
movielover said:
Oh boy.

IMHO, we risk making Kamala and company sympathetic victims. I and many others believe dug up "dirt" can backfire in this case.
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In reply to movielover • 9:53p, 7/31/24
movielover said:
It's simple, you claim you're being humane and open the borders, but what you're really doing is ethnic cleansing by changing the demographic of the voters.
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In reply to Bowlesman80 • 10:19p, 7/31/24
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movielover said:
It's simple, you claim you're being humane and open the borders, but what you're really doing is ethnic cleansing by changing the demographic of the voters.

Ah, Great Replacement theory. Playing all the hits!
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10:23p, 7/31/24
AI says Kamala ain't African American.

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In reply to Big C • 12:03a, 8/1/24
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calbear93 said:
movielover said:
MAGA / President Trump isn't a RINO, GOPe, or UniParty.

MAGA has many similarities to Democrats from the 1980s. Anti war, pro America, pro worker party.

The Democrats now support endless wars, the elite, and illegal immigrants.
Clarification. MAGA is not the Democrats from the 80s.

MAGA is more like Bernie's Democratic Socialism from the 80s. with shades of Jimmy Carter in the late 70s.

Failed policies like high tariffs, stifling of competition, deglobalization that will reduce the quality of life for most Americans and raise inflation with recession, more regulation with promotion for autocrats like Lina Khan, weakening our influence with disastrous impact like Jimmy Carter, increase deficit, etc.

Nothing about MAGA's populist movement is conservative or truly Republican values of less regulation, more competition, more high value immigration, free trade, raising the quality of life, encouraging hard work and strong military, law and order, etc.

Correct. Democrats in the 80s were the birth of neoliberals, in response to the supposed "tax and spend" liberals of the late '60s and '70s (especially a guy like George McGovern who got shellacked by Nixon in '72). "Neoliberal" has a bad connotation now, but the general idea was that, for America to prosper, government cannot totally stifle the private sector. Bill Clinton was basically the culmination of the movement, but now both parties recognize that, to some extent, businesses need to be able to prosper (though with some regulation).

Trump is a faux-populist, who talks about tariffs (usually a bad idea), but at the same time strips away most regulation, taxes and oversight of businesses (especially ones he is personally involved in).


The reason they use the term "neoliberal" (which is an academic term) is to remove the political reality and blame-shift away from conservatives.

You may not be aware, but in the 1980s there was this guy named Ronald Reagan. He had more power than Democrats. He was the birth of the current conservative neoliberal trickle down structure that has dominated our system since. It has failed the American people. His party has been taken over by a buffoonish cult. But they seek the same conservative neoliberal trickle down policies that Democrats have been pushing back against since the 1980s. But they call these policies neoliberal to blame-shift. They pulled the complete jedi mind trick on you, who just blamed the policies of the 80s on the democrats (and don'ttry to blame the conservative dixiecrats whose descendants are now all MAGAts).
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In reply to movielover • 2:43a, 8/1/24
movielover said:
AI says Kamala ain't African American.

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11:58a, 8/1/24
Interesting discussion. It seems to me that those on the conservative end of the spectrum here hold a variety of views on various issues and "conservative" candidates but those of the left will defend to the death anyone in the Democratic Party and all their positions (only slight exaggeration) with the exception of traditionalists like RFK Jr., Tulsi, etc (and that is really an extension of that same mentality because the traditionalists attack some of the shibboleths of the progressive left).

Though a conservative, I am a populist because the policies of pseudo free trade and endless war have put the nation on disastrous course. The former has been great for multinationals and for consumers in the short term, but the long-term deterioration of our competitive position far outweighs these benefits imo. Asset prices are not an accurate measure of wealth. Two things have kept the wheels on so far--the Big Tech boom and the shale revolution--but trend is toward economic calamity, and with it, a breakdown of social cohesion.

I laugh when I hear people like Kamala talk about ending fracking. It just goes to show how completely ignorant some people are about what keeps our country running in 2024. Fracking is the only thing keeping us from Weimar meets Mad Max.

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12:28p, 8/1/24
Is Kamala the de facto POTUS now or is it Jill Biden?
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In reply to Zippergate • 1:13p, 8/1/24
Zippergate said:
Interesting discussion. It seems to me that those on the conservative end of the spectrum here hold a variety of views on various issues and "conservative" candidates but those of the left will defend to the death anyone in the Democratic Party and all their positions (only slight exaggeration) with the exception of traditionalists like RFK Jr., Tulsi, etc (and that is really an extension of that same mentality because the traditionalists attack some of the shibboleths of the progressive left).

Though a conservative, I am a populist because the policies of pseudo free trade and endless war have put the nation on disastrous course. The former has been great for multinationals and for consumers in the short term, but the long-term deterioration of our competitive position far outweighs these benefits imo. Asset prices are not an accurate measure of wealth. Two things have kept the wheels on so far--the Big Tech boom and the shale revolution--but trend is toward economic calamity, and with it, a breakdown of social cohesion.

I laugh when I hear people like Kamala talk about ending fracking. It just goes to show how completely ignorant some people are about what keeps our country running in 2024. Fracking is the only thing keeping us from Weimar meets Mad Max.

"Shibboleths" That reminds me when Mockingbird mainstream media parrots the same phrase across networks and stations. It's like the rhetorical device of repetition, only, I suspect there's more to it than that. AP puts out a wire with bullet points of a news event, but who influences the content in the AP? Are we being mass controlled with something like MK Ultra?

This fellow really seem to be like Forest Gump, except it was evil he was always near. Meet one of MK Ultra's master manipulators, nick named Jolly West:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Jolyon_West

i agree 100% with and feel the same about the following portion:

"Though a conservative, I am a populist because the policies of pseudo free trade and endless war have put the nation on disastrous course. The former has been great for multinationals and for consumers in the short term, but the long-term deterioration of our competitive position far outweighs these benefits imo. Asset prices are not an accurate measure of wealth."

I despise and see little difference between Communists and corporate oligarchs. Both are defective forms of government and will run their course to totalitarianism.
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In reply to Zippergate • 2:35p, 8/1/24
"It seems to me that those on the conservative end of the spectrum here hold a variety of views on various issues…."

2020 Election rigged: Check

Russia didn't interfere in 2016
Election in favor of tRump: Check

January 6 Insurrection a
Deep State sting operation: Check

January 6 Insurrectionists
wrongfully charged
and convicted: Check

Anti Vax: Check

Climate Change Denier: Check

tRump wrongfully charged/wrongfully
convicted of felonies: Check

tRump wrongfully found
liable civilly as Sexual Abuser and business fraud: Check

The Deep State is involved in
the attempt to assassinate
tRump: Check

Fox News is a truth telling
network: Check

Putin acting well within his
rights in the conduct of
Russian operations in
Ukraine: Check

Bundled belief system: Check

Variety of views on
various issues: Yeah, sure.
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6:35p, 8/1/24
Kamala hiding like Joe?

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In reply to movielover • 7:07p, 8/1/24
movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?

if you were rising the the polls every day while doing what you're doing, why would you do anything different?
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In reply to graguna • 7:24p, 8/1/24
If any lesson was learned this week is that tRump should never be put in a situation where he feels pressured to actually try to formulate an answer to a question.

*In a debate he views every question as a cue to regurgitate a mind numbing talking point, regardless of whether it is responsive to the question.

*At the Black Journalist Conference debacle, tRump introduced the technique of asking the questioner 3 times for the definition/including her definition of DEI so he could buy some time to come up with an answer to the question posed (Why should Blacks trust you?)
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In reply to graguna • 9:38p, 8/1/24
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movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?

if you were rising the the polls every day while doing what you're doing, why would you do anything different?

She's also been the nominee for about a week and a half.
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In reply to movielover • 11:04p, 8/1/24
movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?


We all know why: She got caught by surprise a little bit and now needs to spend some time with her handlers, figuring out her best positions on the issues of this election... and how to articulate and defend them.

I am the only Dem here that will admit this, because I know damn well that this is a pissant Off Topic forum on a college sports message board (mediocre team, no less) and nobody is listening to us, so I can be 100% honest.
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In reply to movielover • 1:13a, 8/2/24
movielover said:
Does @amuse burp you after he finishes spoon feeding you?
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In reply to Big C • 2:57a, 8/2/24
Big C said:
movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?


We all know why: She got caught by surprise a little bit and now needs to spend some time with her handlers, figuring out her best positions on the issues of this election... and how to articulate and defend them.



I am the only Dem here that will admit this, because I know damn well that this is a pissant Off Topic forum on a college sports message board (mediocre team, no less) and nobody is listening to us, so I can be 100% honest.


I figured she has to unlearn 3 1/2 years of VP speak which I take to mean: don't say anything of substance. She was so good at that. Now she has to learn to slip and slide around her heavily left political career quotes. She should meet with Newsom. He could do it in a day.
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In reply to 82gradDLSdad • 3:15a, 8/2/24
Two Fools. Progressives from far Left areas often wilt when / if finally asked reasonable questions.
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In reply to Big C • 8:37a, 8/2/24
Big C said:
movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?


We all know why: She got caught by surprise a little bit and now needs to spend some time with her handlers, figuring out her best positions on the issues of this election... and how to articulate and defend them.

I am the only Dem here that will admit this, because I know damn well that this is a pissant Off Topic forum on a college sports message board (mediocre team, no less) and nobody is listening to us, so I can be 100% honest.

This is likely true. Though I also think this sounds pretty normal for politicians at this level.
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In reply to Big C • 8:38a, 8/2/24
Big C said:
movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?


We all know why: She got caught by surprise a little bit and now needs to spend some time with her handlers, figuring out her best positions on the issues of this election... and how to articulate and defend them.

I am the only Dem here that will admit this, because I know damn well that this is a pissant Off Topic forum on a college sports message board (mediocre team, no less) and nobody is listening to us, so I can be 100% honest.
I appreciate your honesty.

I will honestly admit that Trump's campaign badly needs to enhance the message of national unity, because attacking Harris more than her policies is off-putting, especially for childless cat ladies. So, I think Trump's advisors need to revamp the rhetoric and stance to be more inclusive. My Spidey senses feel that there's some confusion and angst in Trump's inner circle. Right now, Trump's at risk of looking like a biological male beating the **** of women in the boxing ring.

Oh, and Kamala's bump is for real, my fellow Republicans. The best explanation I have I heard is that 20% disaffected voters, who disliked both Biden and Trump, now, feel they have someone to vote for that's not-Trump.
To be clear, I think there's many Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) who would vote for HItler, if Hitler changed his name, his appearance, and ran against Trump.

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In reply to 82gradDLSdad • 8:41a, 8/2/24
82gradDLSdad said:
Big C said:
movielover said:
Kamala hiding like Joe?


We all know why: She got caught by surprise a little bit and now needs to spend some time with her handlers, figuring out her best positions on the issues of this election... and how to articulate and defend them.



I am the only Dem here that will admit this, because I know damn well that this is a pissant Off Topic forum on a college sports message board (mediocre team, no less) and nobody is listening to us, so I can be 100% honest.


I figured she has to unlearn 3 1/2 years of VP speak which I take to mean: don't say anything of substance. She was so good at that. Now she has to learn to slip and slide around her heavily left political career quotes. She should meet with Newsom. He could do it in a day.
All she needs to do is put on something like work clothes and clean up homeless camps.
Fake it til you make it.

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In reply to Bowlesman80 • 9:44a, 8/2/24
"Right now, Trump's at risk of looking like a biological male beating the **** of women in the boxing ring."

That would be a more convincing analogy if he wasn't wider in the beam than he is in the shoulders with Ken doll sized little mittens and wasn't a whiny little aggrieved b@itch and professional victim.
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11:42a, 8/2/24

I can't tell who's more out of it, Biden or Kamala.
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In reply to sycasey • 12:02p, 8/2/24
sycasey said:
Bowlesman80 said:
movielover said:
It's simple, you claim you're being humane and open the borders, but what you're really doing is ethnic cleansing by changing the demographic of the voters.

Ah, Great Replacement theory. Playing all the hits!
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In reply to bear2034 • 12:14p, 8/2/24
bear2034 said:
sycasey said:
Bowlesman80 said:
movielover said:
It's simple, you claim you're being humane and open the borders, but what you're really doing is ethnic cleansing by changing the demographic of the voters.

Ah, Great Replacement theory. Playing all the hits!
These two things cannot simultaneously be true:

1. Trump is doing well and gaining ground with non-white voters.

2. Immigrants will lock in a permanent Democratic majority.

So which is it?
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In reply to sycasey • 12:23p, 8/2/24
sycasey said:
bear2034 said:
sycasey said:
Bowlesman80 said:
movielover said:
It's simple, you claim you're being humane and open the borders, but what you're really doing is ethnic cleansing by changing the demographic of the voters.

Ah, Great Replacement theory. Playing all the hits!
These two things cannot simultaneously be true:

1. Trump is doing well and gaining ground with non-white voters.

2. Immigrants will lock in a permanent Democratic majority.

So which is it?
Both statements can be simultaneously true, in the second statement, add the word, "illegal" in front of immigrants.
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In reply to movielover • 1:01p, 8/2/24
movielover said:
Who took the bar for her?
We know she failed her bar exam at least once.
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