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going4roses
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Ohhh yeah of course you don't have a sensible explanation/ common sense reasoning for your statement. You could have just said absolutely nothing and that would represent the same feeling (lack of understanding). You clearly didn't understand my comment nor do have capacity rationalize/contextualize my statement. Racist tropes based on your emotions are inconsequential

Your thought process (rather lack there of) is the reason why things are falling apart everywhere.

Off you go
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going4roses said:

Ohhh yeah of course you don't have a sensible explanation/ common sense reasoning for your statement. You could have just said absolutely nothing and that would represent the same feeling (lack of understanding). You clearly didn't understand my comment nor do have capacity rationalize/contextualize my statement. Racist tropes based on your emotions are inconsequential

Your thought process (rather lack there of) is the reason why things are falling apart everywhere.

Off you go


You could explain the correlation instead of being dismissive. I don't see the correlation either.
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82gradDLSdad said:

going4roses said:

Ohhh yeah of course you don't have a sensible explanation/ common sense reasoning for your statement. You could have just said absolutely nothing and that would represent the same feeling (lack of understanding). You clearly didn't understand my comment nor do have capacity rationalize/contextualize my statement. Racist tropes based on your emotions are inconsequential

Your thought process (rather lack there of) is the reason why things are falling apart everywhere.

Off you go


You could explain the correlation instead of being dismissive. I don't see the correlation either.


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going4roses said:

Aww I am sorry you can not see the correlation
and I am sorry that you can actually believe that there is one

we have been giving the poor money for years and years and it does not end crime, criminals will be criminals


My rebuttal to the racist tropes was actually quite tame Imo.

That's the rub you can't see things that will never negatively impact you. Understood. It's all purposefully done by design so much so it reproduces itself in every way possible to benefit everyone else but my people that owed the most !!!! Pay the debt owed and accrued interest or America will continue fall apart ( you do see shhh is a mess don't you) the clock is ticking…
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Hmm so west Oakland is Palestine ?
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going4roses said:

Ohhh yeah of course you don't have a sensible explanation/ common sense reasoning for your statement. You could have just said absolutely nothing and that would represent the same feeling (lack of understanding). You clearly didn't understand my comment nor do have capacity rationalize/contextualize my statement. Racist tropes based on your emotions are inconsequential

Your thought process (rather lack there of) is the reason why things are falling apart everywhere.

Off you go
amazinf, all those words to say nothing LOL
going4roses
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But of course what else would a proud racist say
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going4roses said:

But of course what else would a proud racist say
you must be the racist as you assume that criminals are of color.

I don't I know criminals come in all shapes, sizes etc
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Righhttt sure thing
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What's next Top Dog!

https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/10/27/crime/berkeley-smokehouse-armed-robbery/
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82gradDLSdad said:

going4roses said:

Ohhh yeah of course you don't have a sensible explanation/ common sense reasoning for your statement. You could have just said absolutely nothing and that would represent the same feeling (lack of understanding). You clearly didn't understand my comment nor do have capacity rationalize/contextualize my statement. Racist tropes based on your emotions are inconsequential

Your thought process (rather lack there of) is the reason why things are falling apart everywhere.

Off you go


You could explain the correlation instead of being dismissive. I don't see the correlation either.

Going4Racism clearly isn't able to substantiate his claim of correlation.
Instead, he just deflects and disappears.

Besides, Bearfarce, Minot, Putin88, and Oski Wee Wee, G4R is yet another reason why OT is a complete waste of time.

Not sure what he's good at in life, but he does play the VICTIM well.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

going4roses said:

Ohhh yeah of course you don't have a sensible explanation/ common sense reasoning for your statement. You could have just said absolutely nothing and that would represent the same feeling (lack of understanding). You clearly didn't understand my comment nor do have capacity rationalize/contextualize my statement. Racist tropes based on your emotions are inconsequential

Your thought process (rather lack there of) is the reason why things are falling apart everywhere.

Off you go


You could explain the correlation instead of being dismissive. I don't see the correlation either.

Going4Racism clearly isn't able to substantiate his claim of correlation.
Instead, he just deflects and disappears.

Besides, Bearfarce, Minot, Putin88, and Oski Wee Wee, G4R is yet another reason why OT is a complete waste of time.

Not sure what he's good at in life, but he does play the VICTIM well.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Enjoy!




Please try to focus on the topic on hand instead of being a baby and having a tantrum about the people you disagree with or don't like. You can do it.
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Madame D.A.'s pet political prosecution (like the alliteration?) gets teed up against one of the best prosecutors in the history of the Office.

Price critic facing misdemeanor demands speedy trial


https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/10/27/courts/butch-ford-demands-speedy-trial-not-guilty-plea/
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Who is still leaving valuables in vehicles ?
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going4roses said:

Who is still leaving valuables in vehicles ?


Folks in states outside of California and Hawaii. Tbh, I felt safe leaving something in my car, albeit not in the open, up until just a few years ago in California. Unfortunately, now that theft is hardly prosecuted, I am afraid to park my car outside of the garage overnight.
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https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/
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Alameda County aims to alter election rules amid Price recall


https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/10/30/courts/alameda-county-recall-election-rules-board-supervisors-pamela-price/

"It is unfair, in the middle of us getting our signatures, to say that you want to make a change," Brenda Grisham, one of the lead organizers of the recall, told the board Tuesday during public comment. "I feel that this is election interference."

East County Supervisor David Haubert said he could see how a current recall effort might raise questions about having the rules changed in the midst of the work."


Gee, really, ya think?
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Oh boy
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going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
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As well as the 70's-90's
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"Oakland, California. Located East of San Francisco, Oakland consistently ranks as one of the most dangerous cities in California and the country. Out of a population of 433,823, Oakland has a crime rate of 6,459 per 100,000, making Oakland 175% higher than the national average and 150% higher than California.Sep 20, 2023"

https://propertyclub.nyc/article/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#:~:text=3.,and%20150%25%20higher%20than%20California.
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Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!
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sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.

As I said: crime has clearly spiked post-Covid. Mostly things like car break-ins.
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.

As I said: crime has clearly spiked post-Covid. Mostly things like car break-ins.


And I am further adding the fact that folks are less likely to report what is now considered misdemeanor theft because of recent laws that discourage prosecution of such. It is my belief that this artificially lowers property crime rates such that they are lower than or comparable to the 90s.
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Gunfire near UC Berkeley prompts WarnMe alert


https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/10/31/uc-berkeley-crime/uc-berkeley-gunfire-warnme-alert/

Berkeley couple carjacked while arriving home with baby


https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/10/31/crime/berkeley-couple-carjacked-arriving-home-with-baby/
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.

As I said: crime has clearly spiked post-Covid. Mostly things like car break-ins.


And I am further adding the fact that folks are less likely to report what is now considered misdemeanor theft because of recent laws that discourage prosecution of such. It is my belief that this artificially lowers property crime rates such that they are lower than or comparable to the 90s.
That's possible, but obviously hard to prove. And would be a pretty short-term effect anyway.
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.

As I said: crime has clearly spiked post-Covid. Mostly things like car break-ins.


And I am further adding the fact that folks are less likely to report what is now considered misdemeanor theft because of recent laws that discourage prosecution of such. It is my belief that this artificially lowers property crime rates such that they are lower than or comparable to the 90s.
That's possible, but obviously hard to prove. And would be a pretty short-term effect anyway.


Why is it a pretty short term effect?
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.

As I said: crime has clearly spiked post-Covid. Mostly things like car break-ins.


And I am further adding the fact that folks are less likely to report what is now considered misdemeanor theft because of recent laws that discourage prosecution of such. It is my belief that this artificially lowers property crime rates such that they are lower than or comparable to the 90s.
That's possible, but obviously hard to prove. And would be a pretty short-term effect anyway.


Why is it a pretty short term effect?
Because the laws are recent?
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/opinion/oakland-calif-is-falling-apart/

Typical California-is-falling-into-the-sea article from the East Coast media. I'm surprised they were able to get across the Bay Bridge this time.

Not saying we don't have problems, but a lot of it is anecdotal, or at least ephemeral. And I'm pretty sure that Oakland's crime rate is still well under that of a number of other cities in the country.
I saw "NY Post" and did not click on the link.

Oakland has a crime problem. It always has, and the current state is still not as bad as it was in the 90s or earlier. That said, there has been a spike since the pre-Covid years and people are not wrong to be worried. Much like Boudin across the bay, Pamela Price seems to be handling the politics of this poorly; this seems to be a common problem with the ultra-leftists who found their way into major city positions in recent years. Ideological commitment will only take you so far!


The theft rate is high despite theft under $1,000 no longer being prosecuted and often not being reported.

As I said: crime has clearly spiked post-Covid. Mostly things like car break-ins.


And I am further adding the fact that folks are less likely to report what is now considered misdemeanor theft because of recent laws that discourage prosecution of such. It is my belief that this artificially lowers property crime rates such that they are lower than or comparable to the 90s.
That's possible, but obviously hard to prove. And would be a pretty short-term effect anyway.


Why is it a pretty short term effect?
Because the laws are recent?


2014. You talk about pre and post covid years. Covid was 2019-21.
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Woke California DA Pamela Price has work laptop stolen from SUV


https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/pamela-price-has-work-laptop-stolen-from-county-suv/



*"According to reports, Price's bodyguard parked the $90,000 SUV outside.." I'd call that a sweet vehicle courtesy of Alameda County.
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BPD shares footage of fatal police shooting at Toyota in Albany


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Relationships gone bad smh … mental health is an after thought
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