calbear93 said:sycasey said:Anarchistbear said:
What do the great unwashed want? The most enduring and provincial trope here.
And I'm not convinced anyone here has a good handle on it.
I am almost certain Biden will win the primary.
sycasey said:calbear93 said:sycasey said:Anarchistbear said:
What do the great unwashed want? The most enduring and provincial trope here.
And I'm not convinced anyone here has a good handle on it.
I am almost certain Biden will win the primary.
I'm not. He has the lead, but it's not overwhelming, he's not a great campaigner, and there's a lot of time to go.
No sheet Red Ryder....You've got it dajo....dajo9 said:calbear93 said:Don't forget the rest of the Rust Belt.bearister said:Another Bear said:
... Americans however don't want the same old thing...Biden orTrump.
...and what Americans are we talking about? Americans as a whole or the only Americans that count when it comes to electing the POTUS in 2020, the sacred voters of Arizona, Florida, North Carolina and Wisconsin?
Rust Belt is the reason why I think Warren will not win. She is too much of a policy wonk who is already viewed as inauthentic or pandering.
For the blue-collar workers in Midwest, Biden's faux pas and lack of eloquence will be a plus. It will be viewed as authentic.
Warren is a woman
This notion that you have to be bland to win is stupidbearister said:
Democrats look for that old debate magic but can anyone defeat Trump?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/23/democratic-debates-2020-joe-biden-bernie-sanders?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://spectator.org/author/dcatron/bearister said:
Democrats look for that old debate magic but can anyone defeat Trump?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/23/democratic-debates-2020-joe-biden-bernie-sanders?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
bearister said:
Dear Democrats, Here's How to Guarantee Trump's Reelection
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/25/democrats-trump-election-2020-227215
Another Bear said:The Juice is loose in Florida...where felons can vote.okaydo said:
Is OJ persona non grata on the U$C campus?okaydo said:Another Bear said:The Juice is loose in Florida...where felons can vote.okaydo said:
Actually, he lives in Vegas...so he could easily slip into Southern California.
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/jun/10/25-years-after-slayings-oj-simpson-says-life-is-fi/
Another Bear said:Is OJ persona non grata on the U$C campus?okaydo said:Another Bear said:The Juice is loose in Florida...where felons can vote.okaydo said:
Actually, he lives in Vegas...so he could easily slip into Southern California.
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/jun/10/25-years-after-slayings-oj-simpson-says-life-is-fi/
GBear4Life said:
The parties really need to rethink these contrived, large group debates. Nobody ever comes out looking good, sincere, or relatable.
It's a liberal podcast, but Pod Save America has been doing long-form interviews with any Democratic candidate willing to come on. Most of the big names (Biden, Bernie, Kamala) haven't done it, but a lot of the lesser-known ones have.GBear4Life said:
3 hour long-form, Joe Rogan type conversations that provide a platform for a person to really elucidate and draw out their thoughts and ideas is ideal, especially for these obscure candidates. Problem is even as large as Joe Rogan's audience is, it's dwarfed by a primetime broadcast slot. To my knowledge only Tulsi and Yang have done Rogan's podcast.
GBear4Life said:
Why don't the networks just give each candidate a 30 min live interview on prime time over the course of a week.
Each candidate knows they may only have two 60 second sound bite opportunities, so they say cringy a*s sh*t to distinguish themselves. The format invites virtue signaling and self aggrandizing.
Yeah if only they could get a fraction of that time and style of dialogue in primetime...it'd be great for voters.sycasey said:It's a liberal podcast, but Pod Save America has been doing long-form interviews with any Democratic candidate willing to come on. Most of the big names (Biden, Bernie, Kamala) haven't done it, but a lot of the lesser-known ones have.GBear4Life said:
3 hour long-form, Joe Rogan type conversations that provide a platform for a person to really elucidate and draw out their thoughts and ideas is ideal, especially for these obscure candidates. Problem is even as large as Joe Rogan's audience is, it's dwarfed by a primetime broadcast slot. To my knowledge only Tulsi and Yang have done Rogan's podcast.
Rogan despises the Left now? He's just outspoken against the SJWs leftist mob and its apologists. So does 80% of the country.okaydo said:GBear4Life said:
Why don't the networks just give each candidate a 30 min live interview on prime time over the course of a week.
Each candidate knows they may only have two 60 second sound bite opportunities, so they say cringy a*s sh*t to distinguish themselves. The format invites virtue signaling and self aggrandizing.
Yes, 25 candidates....which is 12 1/2 hours. In one week. That's like watching a whole Game of Thrones season in one week, except boring. Also, nobody is going to tune in to that snoozefest. They tune in for the action of the debates, and 2 hours is exhausting as hell.
Also, many of the candidates were given CNN town halls -- and viewers couldn't care less.
As for Joe Rogan, Democratic candidates -- except for really, really fringe ones -- aren't going on a podcast of a conspiracy guy who despises the left. They'd much sooner go on Howard Stern, who's pretty normal but whose reputation is way too toxic.
GBear4Life said:Yeah if only they could get a fraction of that time and style of dialogue in primetime...it'd be great for voters.sycasey said:It's a liberal podcast, but Pod Save America has been doing long-form interviews with any Democratic candidate willing to come on. Most of the big names (Biden, Bernie, Kamala) haven't done it, but a lot of the lesser-known ones have.GBear4Life said:
3 hour long-form, Joe Rogan type conversations that provide a platform for a person to really elucidate and draw out their thoughts and ideas is ideal, especially for these obscure candidates. Problem is even as large as Joe Rogan's audience is, it's dwarfed by a primetime broadcast slot. To my knowledge only Tulsi and Yang have done Rogan's podcast.
GBear4Life said:Rogan despises the Left now? He's just outspoken against the SJWs leftist mob and its apologists. So does 80% of the country.okaydo said:GBear4Life said:
Why don't the networks just give each candidate a 30 min live interview on prime time over the course of a week.
Each candidate knows they may only have two 60 second sound bite opportunities, so they say cringy a*s sh*t to distinguish themselves. The format invites virtue signaling and self aggrandizing.
Yes, 25 candidates....which is 12 1/2 hours. In one week. That's like watching a whole Game of Thrones season in one week, except boring. Also, nobody is going to tune in to that snoozefest. They tune in for the action of the debates, and 2 hours is exhausting as hell.
Also, many of the candidates were given CNN town halls -- and viewers couldn't care less.
As for Joe Rogan, Democratic candidates -- except for really, really fringe ones -- aren't going on a podcast of a conspiracy guy who despises the left. They'd much sooner go on Howard Stern, who's pretty normal but whose reputation is way too toxic.
Like him? I mean, I like the open, long-form platform he provides a diverse group of people from all walks of life to talk about all sorts of topics. I agree with him on some stuff, disagree on others.okaydo said:You clearly like him, which says all that really needs to be said.GBear4Life said:
Rogan despises the Left now? He's just outspoken against the SJWs leftist mob and its apologists. So does 80% of the country.
