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In reply to dajo9 • 2:48p, 5/23/24
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Zippergate said:
Polling routinely reflects that people are happy with their own finances but that the overall economy is not good. This is because a lot of Republicans won't say good things about the country when a Democrat is President

That's pretty funny. One, as if that makes any difference, and two, that's exactly what Democrats did all during the Trump presidency. The difference is, the economy was actually strong then.
It does make a difference that people overwhelmingly say their finances are good. Also, polling shows Republicans are far more partisan than Democrats in polling (see link). Also, the economy is stronger now than when Traitor Trump was President. Also, President Biden actually turned around the economy while Traitor Trump inherited a strong economy from President Obama. How did you manage to get so much bad information into such a short post? Here's some data:

New Jobs per Year of Presidency:
Clinton - 2.9 million
Obama 2nd term - 2.6 million (Obama's 1st term was wrecked by Bush's recession)
Trump pre Covid - 2.2 million (this is only counting 2017 - 2019)
Biden post Covid - 3.5 million (this is only counting 1.5 years from 2023 and half of 2022 - by then the Covid job losses had already been fully recovered)

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/05/23/views-of-the-nations-economy-may-2024/
Outside of employment, there are plenty of problems caused by Biden's economic power grab that we can delve into, but let's focus on employment because you seem to think this is favorable for Biden.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV (put in the proper dates and see for yourself)
Despite the largest stimulus in the history of the world, the number of the employed during Biden's term increased by half the amount compared to Trump's pre-Covid term. This is horrific considering that Biden has brought in several million "migrants" who should have been added to the workforce.

Permanent job losses. Sloping down under Trump, heading up under Biden.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13026638

About all those jobs, why is it that so many of them are working with a disability? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the vaccine mandates which Biden forced on tens of millions.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02074597
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In reply to Zippergate • 3:12p, 5/23/24
Ahhh, the cherry picking of jobs data. I first observed it from the left when GWB was President. I know it well because I researched it a lot because I wanted it to be meaningful. It's the tool of the desperate. Here is the data everybody uses that is the basis for the stats I already provided.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS
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In reply to dajo9 • 4:01p, 5/23/24
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.
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In reply to dajo9 • 4:10p, 5/23/24
dajo9 said:
tequila4kapp said:
bearister said:
More than half of Americans think the U.S. is in a recession. It's not.
https://www.axios.com/2024/05/23/us-recession-economic-data-poll

*A low information citizenship will get the government it deserves. Jay Leno's JayWalking bit has consequences.



*When you are getting your news from a source that wrote a check for $877,000,000 because they are lying mother f@uckers, it might make you pause and think….but the "think" part trips up the Deplorables every time.
Listen, this is not about low information people being duped by Fox. It's that people live their lives, see how tight things are and draw obvious conclusions. "Recession" has a particular economic definition and those people don't know the definition. But they are telling you their truth - this economy is not good for a lot of people, regardless of what official government statistics say. Given it is election season Dems would be well advised to listen and believe instead of citing statistics to tell people how dumb they are for not realizing how great they've got it.
No, this situation is about partisanship and bad media. Polling routinely reflects that people are happy with their own finances but that the overall economy is not good. This is because a lot of Republicans won't say good things about the country when a Democrat is President and also because poor media coverage has led many people to believe the overall economy is not good despite their own good finances. The idea the stats are pushing something on us that people are not feeling personally is not reflected in the polling.

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/18/americans-economy-bad-personal-finances-good
Google "polling about peoples personal finances"

It appears to me that maybe every single result except for the Axios article and Motley Fool finds the opposite conclusion.
Gallup: "Americans Remain Discouraged About Personal Finances"
CNBC: Half of adults are stress about personal finance
Data For Progress: More than 2/3 of voters are stressed...
Bankrate: Half of American say ...
Morning Consult Pro: consumer's financial well being dipped
AP-NORC: Many are uncertain about their financial future...

I barely watch any television news. I very occasionally see news from the big 3. I am pretty sure I have never seen a negative story from them about Biden, much less negative economic news. I quoted viewership numbers for Fox News - less than 1.5 million viewer daily out of @250 million adults. Even if all of them tell 1 friend and those friends tell 1 friend we haven't reached 10 million people. Where are the other 240 million adults getting this propaganda? No way, I don't believe it.
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In reply to Zippergate • 4:14p, 5/23/24
Zippergate said:
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.


Yes, desperate. Biden and Trump have the same job growth over Trump's 3 years and Biden's under 2 years.
And we aren't counting Covid recovery jobs to give Biden a handicap even though the stimulus was to recover those jobs and it was successfully done. So, let's factor in all the good and the bad. The stimulus and the inflation, etc. President Biden has job growth of 16 million jobs in less than 4 years which is the greatest jobs record of any President ever.
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In reply to dajo9 • 5:09p, 5/23/24
dajo9 said:
Zippergate said:
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.


Yes, desperate. Biden and Trump have the same job growth over Trump's 3 years and Biden's under 2 years.
And we aren't counting Covid recovery jobs to give Biden a handicap even though the stimulus was to recover those jobs and it was successfully done. So, let's factor in all the good and the bad. The stimulus and the inflation, etc. President Biden has job growth of 16 million jobs in less than 4 years which is the greatest jobs record of any President ever.

It's pretty clear from this curve that nearly all of the job gained under Biden were jobs lost from covid from early 2021 through the middle of 22. The situation since then has clearly worsened.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13026638
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In reply to Cal88 • 5:17p, 5/23/24
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Zippergate said:
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.


Yes, desperate. Biden and Trump have the same job growth over Trump's 3 years and Biden's under 2 years.
And we aren't counting Covid recovery jobs to give Biden a handicap even though the stimulus was to recover those jobs and it was successfully done. So, let's factor in all the good and the bad. The stimulus and the inflation, etc. President Biden has job growth of 16 million jobs in less than 4 years which is the greatest jobs record of any President ever.

It's pretty clear from this curve that nearly all of the job gained under Biden were jobs lost from covid from early 2021 through the middle of 22. The situation since then has clearly worsened.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13026638


Have fun cherrypicking
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:07p, 5/23/24
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Zippergate said:
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.


Yes, desperate. Biden and Trump have the same job growth over Trump's 3 years and Biden's under 2 years.
And we aren't counting Covid recovery jobs to give Biden a handicap even though the stimulus was to recover those jobs and it was successfully done. So, let's factor in all the good and the bad. The stimulus and the inflation, etc. President Biden has job growth of 16 million jobs in less than 4 years which is the greatest jobs record of any President ever.

It's pretty clear from this curve that nearly all of the job gained under Biden were jobs lost from covid from early 2021 through the middle of 22. The situation since then has clearly worsened.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13026638


Have fun cherrypicking

Nothing to do with cherrypicking, you misrepresented the covid job rebound as some kind of a great New Deal program. Whereas the Fed's curve above showed that once the covid return to normalcy was set, things got a bit worse the last 2 years.

Your style of argumentation boils down to this:
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:11p, 5/23/24
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Zippergate said:
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.


Yes, desperate. Biden and Trump have the same job growth over Trump's 3 years and Biden's under 2 years.
And we aren't counting Covid recovery jobs to give Biden a handicap even though the stimulus was to recover those jobs and it was successfully done. So, let's factor in all the good and the bad. The stimulus and the inflation, etc. President Biden has job growth of 16 million jobs in less than 4 years which is the greatest jobs record of any President ever.

It's pretty clear from this curve that nearly all of the job gained under Biden were jobs lost from covid from early 2021 through the middle of 22. The situation since then has clearly worsened.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13026638


Have fun cherrypicking

Nothing to do with cherrypicking, you misrepresented the covid job rebound as some kind of a great New Deal program. Whereas the Fed's curve above showed that once the covid return to normalcy was set, things got a bit worse the last 2 years.

Your style of argumentation boils down to this:


Nope. I provided the commonly used data and broke it down by year. You are cherrypicking other data just like lefties when GWB was President. President Biden has the lowest unemployment streak since the 1960s and the most job growth per year including Covid and excluding Covid recovery.
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6:20p, 5/23/24
Keep hammering at that square peg.
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In reply to 165 Days Til No Joe • 10:51p, 5/23/24
165 Days Til No Joe said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
Zippergate said:
Desperate? Just a different from the same source, the SL Fed. But even if we use your preferred numbers, the job gains are still less than during Trump's term. Despite all the stimulus. Despite the millions of "migrants" added to the working age population. Despite the inflation. Despite the deterioration in the financial well-being of the lower end of the economic spectrum. It's you who is desperate. Desperate to paint a wildly unpopular president in a favorable light. I'll give you one thing. Biden's academic record looks great relative to his record on foreign policy.


Yes, desperate. Biden and Trump have the same job growth over Trump's 3 years and Biden's under 2 years.
And we aren't counting Covid recovery jobs to give Biden a handicap even though the stimulus was to recover those jobs and it was successfully done. So, let's factor in all the good and the bad. The stimulus and the inflation, etc. President Biden has job growth of 16 million jobs in less than 4 years which is the greatest jobs record of any President ever.

It's pretty clear from this curve that nearly all of the job gained under Biden were jobs lost from covid from early 2021 through the middle of 22. The situation since then has clearly worsened.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS13026638


Have fun cherrypicking

Nothing to do with cherrypicking, you misrepresented the covid job rebound as some kind of a great New Deal program. Whereas the Fed's curve above showed that once the covid return to normalcy was set, things got a bit worse the last 2 years.

Your style of argumentation boils down to this:


Nope. I provided the commonly used data and broke it down by year. You are cherrypicking other data just like lefties when GWB was President. President Biden has the lowest unemployment streak since the 1960s and the most job growth per year including Covid and excluding Covid recovery.


Also 165 days until dajo stops bragging about fake job creation and fake booming economic data and goes straight into full-time Trump Derangement Mode.

And I can't wait. Centrist liberals have fully earned four more years of Orange Man Bad.

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't you have your "countdown clock" / "elusive new handles" set to January 20, not November 5th?
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In reply to Big C • 3:05p, 5/24/24
Well, a smart person would do that.



But we're talkin' 'bout Yogi, so. . .
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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2:46p, 5/28/24
I'm getting Biden campaign ads on Youtube from Joe and Jill Biden and Obama. Nothing from the Clintons, yet. Anyone else? They were mumbling something about saving democracy...
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10:47p, 5/28/24

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?
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In reply to Big C • 3:25a, 5/29/24
Big C said:

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?


President Biden has turned us from chaos to normalcy from a culture standpoint and turned around the economy. Jobs and wages have never been higher. Inflation has normalized. It's Morning In America.
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In reply to dajo9 • 8:02a, 5/29/24
Yeah, but the screaming heads on Fox and OAN and Newsmax tell me everything is falling apart, and that I shouldn't believe my paycheck.

And inflation! Corporations jacked up consumer product prices during the pandemic because "supply chain", but the supply chain is good now and prices are still going up. Biden is making the corporations raise and maintain high consumer prices!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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In reply to AunBear89 • 8:52a, 5/29/24
So-called 'Green energy' is a disaster. Colonel McGregor says Germany is rapidly imploding its industrial base with sky-high energy prices, and may soon go back to buying energy from Russia.
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10:45a, 5/29/24
How house prices in these battleground states will decide the election



https://mol.im/a/13472241

"House prices in swing states could keep Joe Biden in the White House in the upcoming presidential election, a first-of-its-kind study suggests.

The academic study analyzed home prices and election results at the county level for each of the six presidential elections from 2000 to 2020, Realtor.com reported.
Counties where home prices had risen in the four years leading up to an election were more likely to 'vote-switch' to the incumbent party's presidential candidate, it found.
In counties where home price performance was worse, Americans were more likely to flip their vote to the challenging candidate - whether they be Democrat or Republican."
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In reply to Big C • 12:46p, 5/29/24
Big C said:

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?


There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of enthusiasm on the campaign trail. Maybe things will pick up as we head into summer.
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In reply to bear2034 • 1:29p, 5/29/24
bear2034 said:
Big C said:

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?


There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of enthusiasm on the campaign trail. Maybe things will pick up as we head into summer.
There has never been any enthusiasm for Biden. He masked it by using Covid as a justification hiding in his basement 4 years ago.
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1:32p, 5/29/24
What is the punishment for an unspecified crime?



Yep



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In reply to bear2034 • 2:19p, 5/29/24
bear2034 said:
Big C said:

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?


There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of enthusiasm on the campaign trail. Maybe things will pick up as we head into summer.

I wouldn't say that I'm "enthusiastic" about President Biden and/or Vice President Harris, just that they've done a pretty good job and, if they're the ticket for November (and I guess they are), then I'm looking forward to four more years!

Can we at least agree on that? Hard to argue that they haven't done a good job, I'd say!
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In reply to bear2034 • 2:21p, 5/29/24
bear2034 said:
Big C said:

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?


There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of enthusiasm on the campaign trail. Maybe things will pick up as we head into summer.


I believe this was a closed event at Girard College in Philadelphia, an independent college preparatory five-day boarding school with a student body of less than 300.

Is this a companion post to the one you posted on the weekend where you suggested PGA golfer Grayson Murray may have died from the Covid vaccine?
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/101590/replies/2337801
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In reply to bearister • 2:49p, 5/29/24
bearister said:


I believe this was a closed event at Girard College in Philadelphia, an independent college preparatory five-day boarding school with a student body of less than 300.

What are the odds that these students are being paid?
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In reply to Big C • 2:54p, 5/29/24
Big C said:

I wouldn't say that I'm "enthusiastic" about President Biden and/or Vice President Harris, just that they've done a pretty good job and, if they're the ticket for November (and I guess they are), then I'm looking forward to four more years!

Can we at least agree on that? Hard to argue that they haven't done a good job, I'd say!

What metric would you use to judge?
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 3:14p, 5/29/24
tequila4kapp said:
bear2034 said:
Big C said:

Well, here we are almost June. I think President Biden and Vice President Harris have done a pretty good job so far! Talk about underrated!

You guys agree?


There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of enthusiasm on the campaign trail. Maybe things will pick up as we head into summer.
There has never been any enthusiasm for Biden. He masked it by using Covid as a justification hiding in his basement 4 years ago.
The Biden vote is and always has been mostly "not Trump."
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4:12p, 5/29/24
Biden is the compromise candidate to get old white votes in the rust belt. It's not exciting. It's pragmatic. Traitor Trump is a morons version of excitement.
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11:07p, 5/29/24
Leticia James and Fani Willis visited the Biden White House on multiple occasions.

Bill Clinton was visited by Jeffrey Epstein.
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In reply to bear2034 • 11:12p, 5/29/24
Trump was visited by Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

And this dude:
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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In reply to AunBear89 • 11:20p, 5/29/24
AunBear89 said:
Trump was visited by Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

And this dude:

Yup. And Biden's FBI surrounded Mike Lindell at a Hardees drive-thu and stole his cell phone and never gave it back.
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In reply to bear2034 • 11:22p, 5/29/24
Good. He complied.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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In reply to AunBear89 • 11:37p, 5/29/24
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Good. He complied.
But Epstein died.
And Clinton went to Mexico to hide.
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In reply to bear2034 • 11:11a, 5/30/24
bear2034 said:
AunBear89 said:
Trump was visited by Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

And this dude:

Yup. And Biden's FBI surrounded Mike Lindell at a Hardees drive-thu and stole his cell phone and never gave it back.


More proof that our FBI are the Brownshirts for the Democrat party.

FBI staff traditionally came from the military, now they recruit on college campuses (liberal).

Where are all Peter Strzok's text messages?

Is Bubba still in Mexico?
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In reply to movielover • 11:42a, 5/30/24
movielover said:
bear2034 said:
AunBear89 said:
Trump was visited by Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

And this dude:

Yup. And Biden's FBI surrounded Mike Lindell at a Hardees drive-thu and stole his cell phone and never gave it back.

More proof that our FBI are the Brownshirts for the Democrat party.

FBI staff traditionally came from the military, now they recruit on college campuses (liberal).

Where are all Peter Strzok's text messages?

Is Bubba still in Mexico?

Bubba came back when the coast was clear. His first public appearance since then was at a major DNC fundraiser in NYC that included the Bidens, Obamas, and Hillary a couple of months ago.
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