Global wrap: Hong Kong 'critical' as Covid cases rise worldwide


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/19/global-wrap-hong-kong-critical-as-covid-cases-rise-worldwide?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

BearChemist said:

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Remember all those other presidents who bragged about how we only lost 58K soldiers in Vietnam? Or said we had the 5th highest number of military deaths in WWII? Or what a great job they did because only 3K died in 9/11? I mean I remember the whole country rejoicing in how few people died that day in NYC: "Never forget, it could have been 4K." I think that was the slogan.

This man is a total psychopath and undeserving of another second in office. He should be yanked from that chair and put in front of tribunal for crimes against humanity. He killed Americans. The president of the US willingly killed Americans for his perceived political gain.

The mortality rate or any form of bragging, boasting, mitigating blame, or campaigning on the back of death is sick. Every word out of his mouth should ONLY be about what we will do to not lose one more citizen on his watch, and how he will throw all the weight of the government behind ANYTHING that will meet that objective. He is a disgusting pig of a person as is anyone who normalizes or justifies his behavior.

Count me as a proud virtue signaling member of the TDS Society. His immorality and cruelty should inspire "derangement" in every sane citizen that we virtue signal in red flag alarms sounded at every opportunity possible.

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Remember all those other presidents who bragged about how we only lost 58K soldiers in Vietnam? Or said we had the 5th highest number of military deaths in WWII? Or what a great job they did because only 3K died in 9/11? I mean I remember the whole country rejoicing in how few people died that day in NYC: "Never forget, it could have been 4K." I think that was the slogan.

This man is a total psychopath and undeserving of another second in office. He should be yanked from that chair and put in front of tribunal for crimes against humanity. He killed Americans. The president of the US willingly killed Americans for his perceived political gain.

The mortality rate or any form of bragging, boasting, mitigating blame, or campaigning on the back of death is sick. Every word out of his mouth should ONLY be about what we will do to not lose one more citizen on his watch, and how he will throw all the weight of the government behind ANYTHING that will meet that objective. He is a disgusting pig of a person as is anyone who normalizes or justifies his behavior.

Count me as a proud virtue signaling member of the TDS Society. His immorality and cruelty should inspire "derangement" in every sane citizen that we virtue signal in red flag alarms sounded at every opportunity possible.

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I don't think my friends and relatives who continue to support Trump are pigs. Just like I don't think people who preach religion to me are delusional. I frankly don't know how to categorize them. But I do give them the benefit of the doubt but think they are on the wrong side. It makes for uncomfortable conversations.

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I don't think my friends and relatives who continue to support Trump are pigs. Just like I don't think people who preach religion to me are delusional. I frankly don't know how to categorize them. But I do give them the benefit of the doubt but think they are on the wrong side. It makes for uncomfortable conversations.

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yepper. regrettable fallout is shunning them, to the extent possible, as we've done a few times..
o president of a rural john birch society chapter
o prominent red-hat elected board members of a lower-cal aggie water board district.
o convicted felon illegally dumping mobs' hazardous waste
# thems the breaks

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Remember all those other presidents who bragged about how we only lost 58K soldiers in Vietnam? Or said we had the 5th highest number of military deaths in WWII? Or what a great job they did because only 3K died in 9/11? I mean I remember the whole country rejoicing in how few people died that day in NYC: "Never forget, it could have been 4K." I think that was the slogan.

This man is a total psychopath and undeserving of another second in office. He should be yanked from that chair and put in front of tribunal for crimes against humanity. He killed Americans. The president of the US willingly killed Americans for his perceived political gain.

The mortality rate or any form of bragging, boasting, mitigating blame, or campaigning on the back of death is sick. Every word out of his mouth should ONLY be about what we will do to not lose one more citizen on his watch, and how he will throw all the weight of the government behind ANYTHING that will meet that objective. He is a disgusting pig of a person as is anyone who normalizes or justifies his behavior.

Count me as a proud virtue signaling member of the TDS Society. His immorality and cruelty should inspire "derangement" in every sane citizen that we virtue signal in red flag alarms sounded at every opportunity possible.

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I don't think my friends and relatives who continue to support Trump are pigs. Just like I don't think people who preach religion to me are delusional. I frankly don't know how to categorize them. But I do give them the benefit of the doubt but think they are on the wrong side. It makes for uncomfortable conversations.

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Some are in the sense that they are very selfish and as long as their agenda is being met they don't really care about collateral damage. Others are racist or just plain stupid. There is no excuse for supporting Trump at this point.

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Why wouldn't it? I would imagine every sewer in this nation tests positive. We have over 3.5M cases now!

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Our local sewer plant has been testing for COVID-19 since early in the pandemic and has found it every time. That surprised me as we are usually cheap about everything around here. It was one indicator that COVID-19 was circulating here even when we just had a few confirmed cases. I haven't heard much lately but with 1261 cases in our county out of a population of 75,000, I expect the virus load has only gotten worse.

We blew it: Why America still hasn't gotten the coronavirus under control - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-america-blew-it-b3d84ea3-78b3-4fe0-8dce-1c4ed0ec0a4c.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top


The surge in coronavirus hospitalizations is severe - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-covid-hospitalizations-july-arizona-texas-nevada-62a7e6c9-2f2c-43b3-a300-26ebd1197811.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

going4roses said:

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I hope one of those kids gives it to this old dude.

going4roses said:

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I am pro-life!...and by pro-life I mean that collection of cells in a woman's womb that has the "potential" of being a human and through which I can control women, further theocracy, ascribe to hypocritical and expedient beliefs, foment rage, and consolidate power amongst loyalist single issue voters.

But once those cells actually are humans, I support war, death penalty, income inequality, guns on the street, climate denial, voter suppression, end to social programs, and now total disregard to the greatest pandemic in 100 years and the lives of our children. Just remember, this is what God wants, I am a good person, and we are the moral party protecting the sanitation...er the sanctity of human life.

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I am pro-life!...and by pro-life I mean that collection of cells in a woman's womb that has the "potential" of being a human and through which I can control women, further theocracy, ascribe to hypocritical and expedient beliefs, foment rage, and consolidate power amongst loyalist single issue voters.

But once those cells actually are humans, I support war, death penalty, income inequality, guns on the street, climate denial, voter suppression, end to social programs, and now total disregard to the greatest pandemic in 100 years and the lives of our children. Just remember, this is what God wants, I am a good person, and we are the moral party protecting the sanitation...er the sanctity of human life.

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Again not a serious take and more hyperbole and generalization dressed as thoughtful discussion.

For one, you conclude the main point of the debate - is a fetus a human life or just a potential for human life - and to determine that, we have to be in agreement on what constitute human life.

And war - do you never support war? What if Russia invaded Germany? What if China, through North Korea, invaded Japan and South Korea? Is your support for human life so great that you will say America should just stay out of it? Again, a statement from you that is not very thoughtful but dressed as if actually profound and morally superior.

Death penalty - quite a bit of Democrats are for death penalty, and quite of bit of Christian Republicans are against death penalty. What is your point there?

Income inequality - again, why is this a Republican and Democrat issue? Why hasn't the liberal California and New York government done more? If it is a matter of raising taxes, who says the state government cannot raise taxes and distribute more evenly to eliminate income gap? Why hasn't the liberal states with the highest income gap solved it? Why is this a Republican issue? Why not demand that our state government take more action to eliminate the gap created by the tech companies? Because it's easier to blame the federal government and Trump and play a game of my tribe versus your tribe?

Guns on the street. Are you suggesting we make guns illegal? Doesn't that require an amendment to the Constitution? Or do you respect the Constitutional process only part of the time when it fits your needs? If not, then isn't it a question of what is an over-reach and what is not in respecting the second amendment while putting in reasonable measures to keep guns out of the hands of criminals?

Climate denial - not sure anyone is denying climate. There is debate on whether we can make a dent in climate change sufficient to justify the proposed sacrifice. I mean, there is a whole spectrum - we can eliminate the entire human population, to shutting down economy (the one thing the SIP did was improve the level of pollution), to take less extreme measures, etc. Again a non-useful binary simplification on a question of degrees. Yes, there are extremists but that is the case on both sides.

Voter suppression - again the question of what type of safe guards are sufficient. I mean the least amount of voter suppression would be for people to submit their vote on a piece of paper and drop into a box, without any form of control that people are not voting more than once or that people who are not eligible are not voting. Isn't it a question of what is over-reach when putting guardrails against fraud versus a binary black and white voter suppression versus no control?

Have a serious discussion, please. Because nothing I have read from you recently is any more reasoned than what you rail against.

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Hopefully he'll be wearing a catcher's mask while he does it, because masks work.

Trump tweets photo of himself in a face mask and calls it "patriotic" - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-tweets-face-mask-patriotic-d1d8d442-dd94-4330-a483-971ae0be2a8a.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

bearister said:

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Trump tweets photo of himself in a face mask and calls it "patriotic" - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-tweets-face-mask-patriotic-d1d8d442-dd94-4330-a483-971ae0be2a8a.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

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"The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia."

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Trump tweets photo of himself in a face mask and calls it "patriotic" - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-tweets-face-mask-patriotic-d1d8d442-dd94-4330-a483-971ae0be2a8a.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

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"The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia."

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"The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Trump conspired with the Russians to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. Trump had always conspired with the Russians to interfere with the 2016 presidential election."

Governor DeSantis this morning still pushing the fake death count narrative. I suppose the citizens of Florida in the coming days and weeks will have first hand knowledge of whether he is correct or not.

" More Americans, particularly Republicans, deny the death toll of the pandemic.
Almost a third (31%) of Americans believe the real death toll of the pandemic is less than the 135,000 officially reported as of mid-July. A similarly worded question in early May found that a quarter (23%) said the official count inflated the actual toll.
Republicans (59% from 40%) and people who get most of their political information from Fox News (61% from 44%) are the most likely to say that the real number of deaths is less than the official count.
Democrats (61% from 63%) continue to mostly believe the real toll of the pandemic is greater than what has been officially reported."

Americans disillusioned with fellow citizens' response to pandemic as denial mounts | Ipsos


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/axios-ipsos-coronavirus-index


Estimation of Excess Deaths Associated With the COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States, March to May 2020 | Infectious Diseases | JAMA Internal Medicine | JAMA Network


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

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Governor DeSantis this morning still pushing the fake death count narrative. I suppose the citizens of Florida in the coming days and weeks will have first hand knowledge of whether he is correct or not.

" More Americans, particularly Republicans, deny the death toll of the pandemic.
Almost a third (31%) of Americans believe the real death toll of the pandemic is less than the 135,000 officially reported as of mid-July. A similarly worded question in early May found that a quarter (23%) said the official count inflated the actual toll.
Republicans (59% from 40%) and people who get most of their political information from Fox News (61% from 44%) are the most likely to say that the real number of deaths is less than the official count.
Democrats (61% from 63%) continue to mostly believe the real toll of the pandemic is greater than what has been officially reported."

Americans disillusioned with fellow citizens' response to pandemic as denial mounts | Ipsos


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/axios-ipsos-coronavirus-index


Estimation of Excess Deaths Associated With the COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States, March to May 2020 | Infectious Diseases | JAMA Internal Medicine | JAMA Network


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

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Per Governor of Missouri, "kids will get over virus they catch at school".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/theyre-going-to-get-over-it-missouri-gov-insists-kids-must-go-back-to-school-even-though-they-will-get-covid-19/ar-BB16YVm0?li

The tone-deafness of this idiot is astounding. I wonder if he's got any kids in school? He and DeSantis are going to get people killed if they haven't already.

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Trump tweets photo of himself in a face mask and calls it "patriotic" - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-tweets-face-mask-patriotic-d1d8d442-dd94-4330-a483-971ae0be2a8a.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

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Does he realize we have tape of his prior comments on the issue of masks?

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Trump tweets photo of himself in a face mask and calls it "patriotic" - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-tweets-face-mask-patriotic-d1d8d442-dd94-4330-a483-971ae0be2a8a.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

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Does he realize we have tape of his prior comments on the issue of masks?

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tRump will claim said video is a Deep Fake.

The loneliest road trip: travels through an empty America in pictures


https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2020/jul/21/loneliest-road-trip-travels-through-an-empty-america-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

At Covid pressy tRump was asked about Ghizzy Maxwell. tRump: "I wish her well."

Interesting thing to say about a procurer for a pedophile, especially one you don't want to p@iss off.

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Trump tweets photo of himself in a face mask and calls it "patriotic" - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-tweets-face-mask-patriotic-d1d8d442-dd94-4330-a483-971ae0be2a8a.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

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Does he realize we have tape of his prior comments on the issue of masks?

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tRump will claim said video is a Deep Fake.

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...and speaking of Deepfakes, MIT came up with a good'in:

MIT releases deepfake video of 'Nixon' announcing NASA Apollo 11 disaster - CNET


https://www.cnet.com/news/mit-releases-deepfake-video-of-nixon-announcing-nasa-apollo-11-disaster/

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You just can't make this **** up.

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You just can't make this **** up.

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5 more months.

Seems like the friends of Captain Catastrophe have their long knives out for Dr. Fauci. It seems like Sinclair Broadcasting the same Sinclair Broadcasting that was able to buy up numerous local tv stations all over the country after Captain Catastrophe and his Merry Band of Idiots removed restrictions that prevented a single company from owning too many tv stations which could allow the station owners to shape the national conversation on key issues affecting the country. Sinclair Broadcasting will mount a campaign using all its newly acquired stations to discredit Dr. Fauci to the nation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/local-stations-across-the-country-set-to-air-fauci-conspiracy-theory-over-the-weekend/ar-BB17abit

COVID-19: Wear a mask, protect your neighbor, get out of this crisis


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/07/26/coronavirus-covid-19-wear-mask-prevention-virus-column/5494984002/

Remember when Pence asked us to apologize to Desantis?

edit with updated tweet showing link to WaPo article.

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Remember when Pence asked us to apologize to Desantis?

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He is not a real medical expert. He just plays one on TV. But he did stay at Holiday Inn that one time.

Trump can't shift public attention from coronavirus to the streets of America


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/26/donald-trump-coronavirus-portland-oregon-protests?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other