The double standard is palpable!OaktownBear said:What we are saying, Prof, is that if she deserves praise for her handling of COVID, she deserves praise for it. The topic wasn't London Breed's possible corruption or her endorsement of Bloomberg. It wasn't whether she was a candidate people should vote for. It was how she handled this issue. She deserves credit for it. At the point this becomes a discussion of who to vote for or her general qualifications, your points are relevant. But that wasn't the conversation. I wouldn't tell anyone in SF that they should vote for London Breed because 1. It's really none of my business; and 2. I wouldn't know. But she deserves credit. Personally, I think the Bay Area has handled the crisis better than any region in the country and she deserves credit for her part in that.Professor Henry Higgins said:sycasey said:Yawn.Professor Henry Higgins said:And then there's this:sycasey said:It's amazing that you don't realize how empty this kind of criticism seems in a moment like this.Professor Henry Higgins said:London Breed who endorsed Mike Bloomberg?NYCGOBEARS said:
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What a leader!
It also has literally nothing to do with her performance on the COVID crisis.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/SF-corruption-probe-Mayor-London-Breed-dated-15056830.php
So then I guess you're saying if Trump had really handled the COVID crisis well that it would have excused all the other bad things that he'd done because all that matters is just laser focusing in on this one aspect of his administration to the exclusion of everything else?
Bingo. For example, I thought George W. Bush was a terrible president, but he does deserve credit for some things (like his record on dealing with AIDS in Africa). That doesn't mean I would have voted to re-elect him, but I can acknowledge the positives.OaktownBear said:What we are saying, Prof, is that if she deserves praise for her handling of COVID, she deserves praise for it. The topic wasn't London Breed's possible corruption or her endorsement of Bloomberg. It wasn't whether she was a candidate people should vote for. It was how she handled this issue. She deserves credit for it. At the point this becomes a discussion of who to vote for or her general qualifications, your points are relevant. But that wasn't the conversation. I wouldn't tell anyone in SF that they should vote for London Breed because 1. It's really none of my business; and 2. I wouldn't know. But she deserves credit. Personally, I think the Bay Area has handled the crisis better than any region in the country and she deserves credit for her part in that.Professor Henry Higgins said:sycasey said:Yawn.Professor Henry Higgins said:And then there's this:sycasey said:It's amazing that you don't realize how empty this kind of criticism seems in a moment like this.Professor Henry Higgins said:London Breed who endorsed Mike Bloomberg?NYCGOBEARS said:
S
What a leader!
It also has literally nothing to do with her performance on the COVID crisis.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/SF-corruption-probe-Mayor-London-Breed-dated-15056830.php
So then I guess you're saying if Trump had really handled the COVID crisis well that it would have excused all the other bad things that he'd done because all that matters is just laser focusing in on this one aspect of his administration to the exclusion of everything else?
In my life I have been happy to credit Bush I, Bush II, Reagan, and even the odious Nixon for things they did well. The best thing I could say about Trump is he has to sleep some of the time and it is difficult for him to eff up the country while doing so. I sincerely wish I could give him credit for handling coronavirus. But he has continued being an incompetent ass 24/7. Frankly, I have never come across anything the man has done in his entire life that deserves praise.GBear4Life said:The double standard is palpable!OaktownBear said:What we are saying, Prof, is that if she deserves praise for her handling of COVID, she deserves praise for it. The topic wasn't London Breed's possible corruption or her endorsement of Bloomberg. It wasn't whether she was a candidate people should vote for. It was how she handled this issue. She deserves credit for it. At the point this becomes a discussion of who to vote for or her general qualifications, your points are relevant. But that wasn't the conversation. I wouldn't tell anyone in SF that they should vote for London Breed because 1. It's really none of my business; and 2. I wouldn't know. But she deserves credit. Personally, I think the Bay Area has handled the crisis better than any region in the country and she deserves credit for her part in that.Professor Henry Higgins said:sycasey said:Yawn.Professor Henry Higgins said:And then there's this:sycasey said:It's amazing that you don't realize how empty this kind of criticism seems in a moment like this.Professor Henry Higgins said:London Breed who endorsed Mike Bloomberg?NYCGOBEARS said:
S
What a leader!
It also has literally nothing to do with her performance on the COVID crisis.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/SF-corruption-probe-Mayor-London-Breed-dated-15056830.php
So then I guess you're saying if Trump had really handled the COVID crisis well that it would have excused all the other bad things that he'd done because all that matters is just laser focusing in on this one aspect of his administration to the exclusion of everything else?
Marrying Milania? Calling Rosie O'Donnell "fat and disgusting" on TV? Like I said, you're not being fair!OaktownBear said:In my life I have been happy to credit Bush I, Bush II, Reagan, and even the odious Nixon for things they did well. The best thing I could say about Trump is he has to sleep some of the time and it is difficult for him to eff up the country while doing so. I sincerely wish I could give him credit for handling coronavirus. But he has continued being an incompetent ass 24/7. Frankly, I have never come across anything the man has done in his entire life that deserves praise.GBear4Life said:The double standard is palpable!OaktownBear said:What we are saying, Prof, is that if she deserves praise for her handling of COVID, she deserves praise for it. The topic wasn't London Breed's possible corruption or her endorsement of Bloomberg. It wasn't whether she was a candidate people should vote for. It was how she handled this issue. She deserves credit for it. At the point this becomes a discussion of who to vote for or her general qualifications, your points are relevant. But that wasn't the conversation. I wouldn't tell anyone in SF that they should vote for London Breed because 1. It's really none of my business; and 2. I wouldn't know. But she deserves credit. Personally, I think the Bay Area has handled the crisis better than any region in the country and she deserves credit for her part in that.Professor Henry Higgins said:sycasey said:Yawn.Professor Henry Higgins said:And then there's this:sycasey said:It's amazing that you don't realize how empty this kind of criticism seems in a moment like this.Professor Henry Higgins said:London Breed who endorsed Mike Bloomberg?NYCGOBEARS said:
S
What a leader!
It also has literally nothing to do with her performance on the COVID crisis.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/SF-corruption-probe-Mayor-London-Breed-dated-15056830.php
So then I guess you're saying if Trump had really handled the COVID crisis well that it would have excused all the other bad things that he'd done because all that matters is just laser focusing in on this one aspect of his administration to the exclusion of everything else?
Who knew pandemics could be so complicated? It could have gone completely out of control, a complete and total disaster. Not good. Not good. But many people have said it was a beautiful response, a perfect response. Everybody's talking about it. I must tell you we hit a home run to be perfectly honest.chazzed said:
Short of the tragic statistics and vast numbers of news articles about miscalculations (or no calculations at all) on multiple fronts, this administration has done a tremendous job. A lot of people are saying that it is the best response to a pandemic ever.
dimitrig said:Who knew pandemics could be so complicated? It could have gone completely out of control, a complete and total disaster. Not good. Not good. But many people have said it was a beautiful response, a perfect response. Everybody's talking about it. I must tell you we hit a home run to be perfectly honest.chazzed said:
Short of the tragic statistics and vast numbers of news articles about miscalculations (or no calculations at all) on multiple fronts, this administration has done a tremendous job. A lot of people are saying that it is the best response to a pandemic ever.
bearister said:
He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trump's Failure on the Virus - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html?referringSource=articleShare
You mean like Wyoming with zero deaths? Or the Dakotas with a combined 11? Nebraska with 15?bearister said:
I wonder how the Evangelicals in Mid America and the South are spinning San Francisco's low COVID 19 death rate? They consider the Bay Area nothing short of Sodom and Gomorrah.
chazzed said:
How incompetent is this? (it's tough to keep coming up with new adjectives for this administrations' actions.)
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/osha-labor-department-coronavirus-cases-at-work-155001164.html