Coronavirus vs Trump

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In reply to okaydo • 5:16p, 4/3/20
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In reply to okaydo • 7:17p, 4/3/20
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Pence is fascinating, but I think I see how he does it. He is millions of miles away, in his mind.
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In reply to bearister • 9:43p, 4/3/20
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He thinks he is being clever when he is just showing us the inner workings of his brain:

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10:44p, 4/3/20
More than 7000 Americans dead from the pandemic, the economy in shambles, and foremost on Trump's mind? The firing of Captain Crozier, who had to beg for help for the infected sailors on his ship and IG Atkinson, who exposed Trump's high crimes and misdemeanors.
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In reply to chazzed • 11:12p, 4/3/20
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More than 7000 Americans dead from the pandemic, the economy in shambles, and foremost on Trump's mind? The firing of Captain Crozier, who had to beg for help for the infected sailors on his ship and IG Atkinson, who exposed Trump's high crimes and misdemeanors.
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7:38a, 4/4/20
430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html


How science finally caught up with Trump's playbook with millions of lives at stake


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/trump-coronavirus-science-analysis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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I just don't understand this partisan divide. "[P]eople who voted for Trump in the 2016 election are around 30% more likely to die from the coronavirus than Democrats. In some swing states from the 2016 election, such as Pennsylvania, if the coronavirus were to run wild, this effect alone could have wiped out up to 30% of the gap between Republicans and Democrats in the 2016 election."



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Residing in the Alternate Fact Universe has become deadly.
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In reply to bearister • 10:37a, 4/4/20
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Residing in the Alternate Fact Universe has become deadly.

It always was.
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In reply to LACalFan • 10:40a, 4/4/20
Yeah, I know what you mean.
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In reply to dimitrig • 11:15a, 4/4/20
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I just don't understand this partisan divide. "[P]eople who voted for Trump in the 2016 election are around 30% more likely to die from the coronavirus than Democrats. In some swing states from the 2016 election, such as Pennsylvania, if the coronavirus were to run wild, this effect alone could have wiped out up to 30% of the gap between Republicans and Democrats in the 2016 election."
What I don't understand is politicians and media outlets willing to sacrifice their own constituencies for Trump's pride. This is going to bite them in the butt. Their voters are unprotected and hence more likely to suffer. That suffering will affect entire communities who will look for someone to blame. It is hard to see how that someone is not Trump and his enablers.
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In reply to NYCGOBEARS • 12:07p, 4/4/20
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
I had to edit myself. It's so damn frustrating and depressing.
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In reply to NYCGOBEARS • 12:09p, 4/4/20
I think this is called "culling the herd" - it's tragic, but not at all surprising.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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In reply to AunBear89 • 12:15p, 4/4/20
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I think this is called "culling the herd" - it's tragic, but not at all surprising.
The problem is their ignorance isn't just harming themselves; it's putting everyone in jeopardy.
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In reply to dimitrig • 1:21p, 4/4/20
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I just don't understand this partisan divide. "[P]eople who voted for Trump in the 2016 election are around 30% more likely to die from the coronavirus than Democrats. In some swing states from the 2016 election, such as Pennsylvania, if the coronavirus were to run wild, this effect alone could have wiped out up to 30% of the gap between Republicans and Democrats in the 2016 election."




I don't follow Chuck Woolery on Twitter. But a Washington Post reporter I follow tweeted the following 2 tweets into my timeline.

Click on any of the 2 following links to see the comments and you can see the current right-wing mindset (and understand why Fauci needs security).


Or also click here.





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Trump Veers Off to Attack Ukraine Whistleblower at Coronavirus Briefing


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rages-at-critics-at-coronavirus-press-conference


*Since tRump views himself as a war time POTUS, it truly is a gross injustice that he is not subject to being tried before a military tribunal for Dereliction of Duty and with all the appropriate war time penalties that come with a conviction on that charge.
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In reply to bearister • 8:16p, 4/4/20
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Trump Veers Off to Attack Ukraine Whistleblower at Coronavirus Briefing


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rages-at-critics-at-coronavirus-press-conference


*Since tRump views himself as a war time POTUS, it truly is a gross injustice that he is not subject to being tried before a military tribunal for Dereliction of Duty and with all the appropriate war time penalties that come with a conviction on that charge.

Mitch McConnell will go down as the greatest traitor in US history for allowing this to happen. I hope he rots in hell.
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In reply to dimitrig • 9:43p, 4/4/20
bad business
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 11:55p, 4/4/20
if he has given up hope ...
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In reply to dimitrig • 2:53a, 4/5/20
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bearister said:
Trump Veers Off to Attack Ukraine Whistleblower at Coronavirus Briefing


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rages-at-critics-at-coronavirus-press-conference


*Since tRump views himself as a war time POTUS, it truly is a gross injustice that he is not subject to being tried before a military tribunal for Dereliction of Duty and with all the appropriate war time penalties that come with a conviction on that charge.

Mitch McConnell will go down as the greatest traitor in US history for allowing this to happen. I hope he rots in hell.

This is the best article on McConnell from 1 year ago.

https://newrepublic.com/article/153275/mitch-mcconnell-profile-nihilist-chief
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In reply to okaydo • 8:23a, 4/5/20
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He is looking very, very good right now. Has a podium presence like Kennedy and Clinton and gives every impression of being a stand up guy. He will be a major player on the national scene as soon as the opportunity presents (yes, future President, unless he screws up along the way).
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8:34a, 4/5/20
When asked by George Stephanopoulos just now about the January 3, CIA assessment about COVID 19 outbreak in China, Defense Secretary Esper responded, "I don't recall that,"and then pivoted into the full duckspeak patting the Administration on the back rapid fire canned propaganda speech we hear at tRump's daily pressies. After George let Esper talk himself out and wind down like a robot, he re asked his question about the early CIA assessment report. This time Esper responded, "I am not aware of that."

As I said before, it makes me sick at heart that this current government crew is not subjected to charges of Dereliction of Duty, prosecution by a military tribunal, and with appropriate war time penalties if convicted.
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In reply to OdontoBear66 • 8:40a, 4/5/20
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okaydo said:
He is looking very, very good right now. Has a podium presence like Kennedy and Clinton and gives every impression of being a stand up guy. He will be a major player on the national scene as soon as the opportunity presents (yes, future President, unless he screws up along the way).
I don't trust any politician trying to make political hay for themselves out of this crisis. And my memory is not so short to forget his tenure as mayor of San Francisco.
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Rahm Emanuel just now on George S. show:

"Some day this will be studied at Harvard Business School regarding what not to do in a crisis."
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In reply to Yogi04 • 8:55a, 4/5/20
Professor Henry Higgins said:
OdontoBear66 said:
okaydo said:
He is looking very, very good right now. Has a podium presence like Kennedy and Clinton and gives every impression of being a stand up guy. He will be a major player on the national scene as soon as the opportunity presents (yes, future President, unless he screws up along the way).
I don't trust any politician trying to make political hay for themselves out of this crisis. And my memory is not so short to forget his tenure as mayor of San Francisco.


What are your suggestions for how Governor Newsom should have handled the state's response to the crisis and his communication to the citizenry so that he wasn't "making political hay" for himself? IMHO the "political hay" of which you speak is a natural by product of a job well done, but by no means perfect, by the Governor's own admission.


To Donald Trump, coronavirus is just one more chance for a power grab


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/04/donald-trump-coronavirus-power-grab?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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