Another Bear said:

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Sorry to hammer this, but with CEO compensation now close to 1,000x the average employee, I'm not listening to any rationalization regarding corporations at this point. This is Manhattan Oil. The CEO makes close to 1,000x the average worker. Or put in perspective, the worker has to work close to 1,000 YEARS to earn what he earns in ONE YEAR. That's not healthy, or normal in any other country.

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bearister said:

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Alan M. Dershowitz was on Team OJ which firmly established him in the Legal Prostitute Hall of Fame. He doesn't know what evidence Captain Mueller has turned up that proves crimes were committed. I wonder what AD thinks 5 tRump associates pleading guilty to felony charges is indicative of? Whether there was another procedural path to follow to go after this den of rascals I don't really care but I will admit that having Captain Mueller and his crack team running the show is comforting. Semper Fi! Oorah!

List of Guilty Pleas in Special Counsel Investigation (2017 to Present):

Rick Gates

Michael Flynn

George Papadopoulos

Richard Pinedo

Alex R. van der Zwaan

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Another Bear said:

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It's not longer just about the Russkies. It's now about Cambridge Analytica, a corporation working INSIDE the U.S.

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Anarchistbear said:

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Dershowitz is a sorry apologist for Israel and of course their favorite President.

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bearister said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Dershowitz is a sorry apologist for Israel and of course their favorite President.

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Even a guilty man is entitled under our laws to make the state prove its case against him. A criminal defense attorney can be moral and ethical in defending a guilty man by making sure the state follows the law during its prosecution. Where attorneys like Dershowitz cross the line is when they actively advance a defense theory that they know is untrue, like in the OJ case. One need go no further than examine the look on Robert Kardashian's face when the foreman read the not guilty verdict. It is the expression of a man that still had some semblance of a conscience left. He knew OJ just got away with murder X 2. Kardashian also felt he had a black stain on his soul for being on The Dream Team.

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bearister said:

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Alan M. Dershowitz was on Team OJ which firmly established him in the Legal Prostitute Hall of Fame.

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bearister said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Dershowitz is a sorry apologist for Israel and of course their favorite President.

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Even a guilty man is entitled under our laws to make the state prove its case against him. A criminal defense attorney can be moral and ethical in defending a guilty man by making sure the state follows the law during its prosecution. Where attorneys like Dershowitz cross the line is when they actively advance a defense theory that they know is untrue, like in the OJ case. One need go no further than examine the look on Robert Kardashian's face when the foreman read the not guilty verdict. It is the expression of a man that still had some semblance of a conscience left. He knew OJ just got away with murder X 2. Kardashian also felt he had a black stain on his soul for being on The Dream Team.

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iwantwinners said:

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For the attorneys out there, what about this ethical dilemma:

What is the moral position when you know you're certain your client is guilty of a heinous crime, but you also believe, based on evidence, that LE is stacking the deck against him such as planting evidence (e.g. Making a Murderer, Steve Avery)?

Is one a scumbag for taking the case and fighting for the case to be thrown out and your client free?

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BearNIt said:

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Does it matter that John Brennan the Ex Head of the CIA under the Obama Administration and the person that may have gone to Comey to open an investigation into Trump and the Russians said today that he believes that Putin has something on Trump? Brennan knows what Putin has on Trump, but can't say.

"When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you."

John Brennan


Does it matter that Gen. Barry McCaffrey has indicated that Trump is a" Clear threat to US national security and our European allies"?

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oski003 said:

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What does he have on Trump? Spit it out, so we can impeach and move on.

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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What does he have on Trump? Spit it out, so we can impeach and move on.

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Yes, because that's how criminal investigations work. Detectives and prosecutors just spit out everything they have for public consumption before bringing charges against you.

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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What does he have on Trump? Spit it out, so we can impeach and move on.

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Yes, because that's how criminal investigations work. Detectives and prosecutors just spit out everything they have for public consumption before bringing charges against you.

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It's been 1 year, 8 months. It sure takes a long time to build a case against what many here call an idiot. I'll try to be more patient. I also don't understand why Mueller's focus is shifting to obstruction, especially in light of Brennan's apparent 'smoking gun.'

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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What does he have on Trump? Spit it out, so we can impeach and move on.

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Yes, because that's how criminal investigations work. Detectives and prosecutors just spit out everything they have for public consumption before bringing charges against you.

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bearister said:

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iwantwinners said:

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I don't understand how Trump being impeached vindicates and/or validates any aspect liberal/leftist/Democrat ideology. It doesn't. They stand or fall on its own merits. A Republican will replace Trump if impeached, so it might be a net loss for Democrats.

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I'll settle for anyone sane, with an above average IQ and not a traitor.

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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What does he have on Trump? Spit it out, so we can impeach and move on.

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Yes, because that's how criminal investigations work. Detectives and prosecutors just spit out everything they have for public consumption before bringing charges against you.

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That only happens if your name is Clinton

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iwantwinners said:

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bearister said:

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iwantwinners said:

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I don't understand how Trump being impeached vindicates and/or validates any aspect liberal/leftist/Democrat ideology. It doesn't. They stand or fall on its own merits. A Republican will replace Trump if impeached, so it might be a net loss for Democrats.

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I'll settle for anyone sane, with an above average IQ and not a traitor.

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Ok, can I bookmark this post lol

You'll 'settle' for Pence?????

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iwantwinners said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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What does he have on Trump? Spit it out, so we can impeach and move on.

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Yes, because that's how criminal investigations work. Detectives and prosecutors just spit out everything they have for public consumption before bringing charges against you.

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That only happens if your name is Clinton

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