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Matthew Patel said:

> Paul Manafort is in prison for it.
PM's wikipedia page reminds..
> On May 13, 2020, Manafort was released to home confinement due to the threat of COVID-19> Trump Disease.

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Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

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Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The senate released it's 5th and final bipartisan report on Russian Interference in the 2016 election. Among many other things, it provides further support that Trump lied in his written answers to Mueller. Of course, Republicans will distance themselves from the report because it doesn't exonerate Trump or his associates - far from it or gaslight that the report does exonerate Trump and his associates.

This is a 1,000 page report so a lot will be coming out about this in the next few days.

Some highlights from Axios:

Manafort: "Taken as a whole, Manafort's high level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat," the committee wrote.

Roger Stone/WikiLeaks: The committee found that then-candidate Trump and senior campaign officials attempted to obtain advance information about WikiLeaks' release of damaging emails from Roger Stone, who they believed had inside information. It also assessed that Trump spoke with Stone about WikiLeaks on "multiple occasions," despite the fact that the president said he did not recall doing so in written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller.

Michael Cohen/Russia business deal: The report found that by the end of 2015, Trump's former personal lawyer had "reached out to the Kremlin directly to solicit the Russian government's assistance" about building a Trump Tower in Moscow.
It continues to amaze how hard you all still cling to Russiagate.
You call reacting to a bipartisan, GOP led investigative report that basically confirms criminal behavior by the Trump Administration "clinging"? Got it. You have zero credibility, even as a troll.
The criminals were found guilty. Were you expecting the non-criminals to be found guilty as well? If so, that's your problem.
DOJ policy is that the President can't be indicted. Mueller followed that policy. So, the question of Trump crimes is unanswered. The question of Trump campaign collusion with Russia has been answered and it happened.
Unfortunately for you, it wasn't. I've shown you this multiple times. You can't show it because it doesn't exist.


You make claims about the reports that are not backed up by what the reports say. Then you wonder why people here question your credibility and motives.
I guess Reuters is fake news now too?

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.

The term "collusion" was always a head fake. That isn't a legal term. Conspiracy and obstruction of justice is the correct terminology for Trump and his co-conspirators crimes.
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Trump and Miss Moscow: Report Examines Possible Compromises in Russia Trips


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-russia-senate-intelligence.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-russia-senate-intelligence.amp.html
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dajo9
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NYCGOBEARS said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

NYCGOBEARS said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:

The senate released it's 5th and final bipartisan report on Russian Interference in the 2016 election. Among many other things, it provides further support that Trump lied in his written answers to Mueller. Of course, Republicans will distance themselves from the report because it doesn't exonerate Trump or his associates - far from it or gaslight that the report does exonerate Trump and his associates.

This is a 1,000 page report so a lot will be coming out about this in the next few days.

Some highlights from Axios:

Manafort: "Taken as a whole, Manafort's high level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat," the committee wrote.

Roger Stone/WikiLeaks: The committee found that then-candidate Trump and senior campaign officials attempted to obtain advance information about WikiLeaks' release of damaging emails from Roger Stone, who they believed had inside information. It also assessed that Trump spoke with Stone about WikiLeaks on "multiple occasions," despite the fact that the president said he did not recall doing so in written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller.

Michael Cohen/Russia business deal: The report found that by the end of 2015, Trump's former personal lawyer had "reached out to the Kremlin directly to solicit the Russian government's assistance" about building a Trump Tower in Moscow.
It continues to amaze how hard you all still cling to Russiagate.
You call reacting to a bipartisan, GOP led investigative report that basically confirms criminal behavior by the Trump Administration "clinging"? Got it. You have zero credibility, even as a troll.
The criminals were found guilty. Were you expecting the non-criminals to be found guilty as well? If so, that's your problem.
DOJ policy is that the President can't be indicted. Mueller followed that policy. So, the question of Trump crimes is unanswered. The question of Trump campaign collusion with Russia has been answered and it happened.
Unfortunately for you, it wasn't. I've shown you this multiple times. You can't show it because it doesn't exist.


You make claims about the reports that are not backed up by what the reports say. Then you wonder why people here question your credibility and motives.
I guess Reuters is fake news now too?

Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.

The term "collusion" was always a head fake. That isn't a legal term. Conspiracy and obstruction of justice is the correct terminology for Trump and his co-conspirators crimes.


I like collusion because it's not tied up in legalities. There was clear, undeniable collusion between Russian intelligence and the Trump campaign. Was there criminality? I'll wait for Biden's AG to make that determination since current DOJ policy will not allow that question to be answered.
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Matthew Patel
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dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.
dajo9
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Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.


Ok, Trump guy
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Matthew Patel
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dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.
Ok, Trump guy
And it ends the same way it always does. You can't substantiate anything, so you resort to calling me a Trump guy.
dajo9
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Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.
Ok, Trump guy
And it ends the same way it always does. You can't substantiate anything, so you resort to calling me a Trump guy.


Dude, it's substantiated all over these boards and the news. It's not like me treating you like a fair arbiter of facts is going to change anything. You will just continue to help Trump as you've done from day 1 on these boards.
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Matthew Patel
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dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.
Ok, Trump guy
And it ends the same way it always does. You can't substantiate anything, so you resort to calling me a Trump guy.
Dude, it's substantiated all over these boards and the news. It's not like me treating you like a fair arbiter of facts is going to change anything. You will just continue to help Trump as you've done from day 1 on these boards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/18/senates-big-russia-report-what-we-learned-what-it-means/

"The report, like its predecessors, does not allege a conspiracy or collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia."
dajo9
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Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.
Ok, Trump guy
And it ends the same way it always does. You can't substantiate anything, so you resort to calling me a Trump guy.
Dude, it's substantiated all over these boards and the news. It's not like me treating you like a fair arbiter of facts is going to change anything. You will just continue to help Trump as you've done from day 1 on these boards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/18/senates-big-russia-report-what-we-learned-what-it-means/

"The report, like its predecessors, does not allege a conspiracy or collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/%3foutputType=amp

"As it turns out, there really was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia"

These articles are behind paywalls so I haven't really read either but I suspect your article is using the word collusion as a synonym for criminal conspiracy. Following Trump's lead of muddying the words and definitions.

There is collusion. Criminal conspiracy? We'll see.
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Unit2Sucks
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Reply to this post if you are like Don Jr.

Matthew Patel
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dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

dajo9 said:

Matthew Patel said:

Unit2Sucks said:


Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia used Republican political operative Paul Manafort and the WikiLeaks website to try to help now-U.S. President Donald Trump win the 2016 election, a Republican-led Senate committee said in its final review of the matter on Tuesday.

WikiLeaks played a key role in Russia's effort to assist Republican Trump's campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton and likely knew it was helping Russian intelligence, said the 966-page report, which is likely to be the most definitive public account of the 2016 election controversy.

The report found President Vladimir Putin personally directed the Russian efforts to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Clinton.
Asked about the report at an event in Yuma, Arizona, Trump said: "I don't know anything about it. I didn't read it."

Paul Manafort is in prison for it.

There is no new news on Russiagate. Collusion was not there. Russia did what Russia was always going to do, regardless of the happiness it gave Trump and his operatives, many of whom are in jail.

You keep pretending that some new information has come out when it's just regurgitated old information.
It must be new to you. You were denying Roger Stone was connected to WikiLeaks just weeks ago.
Unfortunately for you, that also hasn't changed. Stone, being a career liar, lied that he had advance knowledge of what they had, but he didn't.

You just keep imagining that the same stuff told multiple times means new information. It doesn't.
Ok, Trump guy
And it ends the same way it always does. You can't substantiate anything, so you resort to calling me a Trump guy.
Dude, it's substantiated all over these boards and the news. It's not like me treating you like a fair arbiter of facts is going to change anything. You will just continue to help Trump as you've done from day 1 on these boards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/18/senates-big-russia-report-what-we-learned-what-it-means/

"The report, like its predecessors, does not allege a conspiracy or collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/%3foutputType=amp

"As it turns out, there really was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia"
I appreciate you linking opinion columns that you can't read. I could show you how to read them for free, but you are not deserving of that knowledge.

And the people quoted in the piece, as well as the author all enjoyed perpetuating the conspiracy theories that were never proven.
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Never Trump resistance hero to dajo9, Jennifer Rubin, just covered herself in glory on Twitter that same day and okaydo forgot to post it for us. Fortunately, I'm here to keep him properly humbled.

Jennifer Rubin, circa 2012


Jennifer Rubin, circa 2020


I dearly look forward to all Jennifer Rubin articles that dajo9 shares with us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NYCGOBEARS
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Matthew Patel said:

Never Trump resistance hero to dajo9, Jennifer Rubin, just covered herself in glory on Twitter that same day and okaydo forgot to post it for us. Fortunately, I'm here to keep him properly humbled.

Jennifer Rubin, circa 2012


Jennifer Rubin, circa 2020


I dearly look forward to all Jennifer Rubin articles that dajo9 shares with us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Some people evolve their character and ideas. Maybe you should try it if possible?
Matthew Patel
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NYCGOBEARS said:

Matthew Patel said:

Never Trump resistance hero to dajo9, Jennifer Rubin, just covered herself in glory on Twitter that same day and okaydo forgot to post it for us. Fortunately, I'm here to keep him properly humbled.

Jennifer Rubin, circa 2012


Jennifer Rubin, circa 2020


I dearly look forward to all Jennifer Rubin articles that dajo9 shares with us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Some people evolve their character and ideas. Maybe you should try it if possible?
And some people are easily conned.
NYCGOBEARS
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Matthew Patel said:

NYCGOBEARS said:

Matthew Patel said:

Never Trump resistance hero to dajo9, Jennifer Rubin, just covered herself in glory on Twitter that same day and okaydo forgot to post it for us. Fortunately, I'm here to keep him properly humbled.

Jennifer Rubin, circa 2012


Jennifer Rubin, circa 2020


I dearly look forward to all Jennifer Rubin articles that dajo9 shares with us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Some people evolve their character and ideas. Maybe you should try it if possible?
And some people are easily conned.

I guess you'd know all about that.
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Totally legal and totally cool.




 
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