OT: Trump/Russians/Robert Mueller

graguna
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Another Bear said:

Wow have you heard the latest? Trump has instructed the Pentagon to set-up a military parade, apparently for him. Will he instruct U.S. troops to goosestep? Will there be heroic songs honoring the Bone Spur in Chief?
what a ****** bag our fake president is. a military parade is essentially a country whipping its dick out.
sonofabear51
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That would be him exactly.
B.A. Bearacus
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Surprise, fucucking surprise:

sycasey
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Dems should have tried harder to convince Trump that the memo just contained info about how smart and good-looking he is.
B.A. Bearacus
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Per NBC News, Bannon met with Mueller's team multiple times this week for a total of 20 hours.
BearDevil
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B.A. Bearacus said:

Per NBC News, Bannon met with Mueller's team multiple times this week for a total of 20 hours.



Bannon's a mess, but even he makes more sense than Michael Cohen. Bannon allegedly jerked the House around at WH's behest, but cooperated with Mueller. Nunes will protect Trump, but Bannon doesn't want to be charged with crimes via Mueller.

Cohen set up a dummy company in Delaware to cover payments to Stormy. Apparently didn't try to block a 2011 article about the affair and both Stormy and Cohen repeatedly denied the affair multiple times post-NDA. Deliberately blew all that up. Does he face personal liability or does he believe bigger issues are out there for Trump so he's a loyal soldier taking a fall?
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BearDevil said:

.... Nunes will protect Trump...


Nunes is a mediocre man and the expression on his face indicates that even he is aware of it. He will be sucked into the tRump vortex and go down with the ship.
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Big news day.

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In a truly just world, Zuckerberg is hauled away in chains.
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Anarchistbear said:

In a truly just world, Zuckerberg is hauled away in chains.

In a truly just world, Zuckerberg would be forced to go on a real life Hunger Games and fend for his life and kill his own food. His opponents would be poor and angry Gen-Z'ers who work at Starbucks and will never buy a house in California.
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This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
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dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
Yet, the Russian goal of destabilizing the US by turning conservatives against liberals (and vice-versa) is still working. The ultimate question is how do we get people to back away from the dopamine releasing rage, entrenched tribalism, snarky and condescending internet posts and petty revenge and engage in civil discourse, or is that possible. Was it ever possible with all parts of American society?
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golden sloth said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
Yet, the Russian goal of destabilizing the US by turning conservatives against liberals (and vice-versa) is still working. The ultimate question is how do we get people to back away from the dopamine releasing rage, entrenched tribalism, snarky and condescending internet posts and petty revenge and engage in civil discourse, or is that possible. Was it ever possible with all parts of American society?
Liberals and conservatives have always argued and always will.

Step 1 is for the government to work against Russian interference. Our President thinks it is a hoax.
Step 2 is to pressure companies to act in the interests of the United States
Step 3 is for Mueller to continue the investigation
Step 4 is to bring any Americans involved to justice

I don't know how to make conservatives and the far left stop believing obvious lies. I mean, if you fall for an obvious con like the Donald Trump campaign, I don't know how to help you - I'll just work to defeat you.
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dajo9 said:

golden sloth said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
Yet, the Russian goal of destabilizing the US by turning conservatives against liberals (and vice-versa) is still working. The ultimate question is how do we get people to back away from the dopamine releasing rage, entrenched tribalism, snarky and condescending internet posts and petty revenge and engage in civil discourse, or is that possible. Was it ever possible with all parts of American society?
Liberals and conservatives have always argued and always will.

Step 1 is for the government to work against Russian interference. Our President thinks it is a hoax.
Step 2 is to pressure companies to act in the interests of the United States
Step 3 is for Mueller to continue the investigation
Step 4 is to bring any Americans involved to justice

I don't know how to make conservatives and the far left stop believing obvious lies. I mean, if you fall for an obvious con like the Donald Trump campaign, I don't know how to help you - I'll just work to defeat you.
Maybe this is a good spot to ask for a list of the obvious lies the left believes.
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dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
As thoroughly as I, personally, believe that (a) the Russians have Trump by the short hairs because of the money laundering which saved Trump's a*s when no legitimate money people would do so; (b) Trump is, in any case, tempermentally enamoured of authoritarianism and Putin in particular - not caring about the murder, torture and other oppression which is its stock-in-trade; and (c) there was cooperation between the Russian cyberwar on the election (intended to favor Trump) and both the Trump Campaign and the Republican Party (although, for the life of me, I don't know why Trump and/or the Republicans would have needed it since nobody knows better than them how to run a racist, divisive, vote-suppressive, American Campaign, including its cyber aspect), I don't think that today's news either speaks to either of those three points, or is relevant to Trump's claims that the issue of Trump (et al) "collusion" with Russia is a hoax. All it relates to is the fact of Russian interference in the election - a fact which, at this point, nobody is really denying, although, up to now, Trump has VERY WEAKLY whimpered his personal belief in Putin's sincerity, the only significance of which to me is the extraordinary feeble-mindedness of his base (which, remember, is close to 40% of the voting public) who do not question Trump's more-and-more idiotic pronouncements.
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Trump can't fire Rosenstein now. Trump may be so pissed at Sessions that he may blow him up North Korea style. All of the heads of US intelligence agencies have already testified publicly about Russian activities in the 2016 election. US now has to implement the sanctions fully.

Nunes and Dana Rohrbacher now will be even more heavily scrutinized. Curious about what Rick Gates' deal will concern. He can definitely deliver Manafort. Jared, Uday, and Qusay are hosed if money laundrying is involved.
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BearDevil said:

Trump can't fire Rosenstein now. Trump may be so pissed at Sessions that he may blow him up North Korea style. All of the heads of US intelligence agencies have already testified publicly about Russian activities in the 2016 election. US now has to implement the sanctions fully.

Nunes and Dana Rohrbacher now will be even more heavily scrutinized. Curious about what Rick Gates' deal will concern. He can definitely deliver Manafort. Jared, Uday, and Qusay are hosed if money laundrying is involved.


Nunes has that look on his face that doesn't help in the exercise yard.
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dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referrring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
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tequila4kapp said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referrring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
You understand the real implications behind Trump's tweets? Last time I checked WH needs more talents like you.
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Is there anybody who doesn't think that Mueller is setting the table for Conspiracy to Obstruct charges for the Cheeto iand all his crumbs? Remember Nixon wasn't charged with the Watergate break in, he was charged due to his attempts to obstruct.

How pissed is Mrs. Cheeto that she has to be tested yet again for an STD due to her philandering cheeto? Who will be the next woman to slither out of the mud indicating that she also had an affair with President Cheeto.i
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BearNIt said:

How pissed is Mrs. Cheeto that she has to be tested yet again for an STD due to her philandering cheeto? Who will be the next woman to slither out of the mud indicating that she also had an affair with President Cheeto.i


Timeline on Melania, Trump, and affairs is brutal. Got married in 2005. Same year that Trump bragged to Billy Bush about hitting on Nancy O'Dell. Trump and Bush weren't personal friends, so insane to be babbling to somebody about trying to bang one of their married colleagues.

The Playmate and Stormy relationships both happened in 2006 and the hush money agreements were signed in 2016. Highly doubtful that Trunp suddenly became faithful to Melania in 2007 and that everyone got paid hush money. Only questions are how many affairs were there, how many weren't paid off, and how many will come forward, That assumes all consensual relationships, but reasonable chance there will be harassment and/or assault allegations too.

AZ and TN are red states, so will be interesting to see if Martha McSalky/Kelll Ward and Marsha Blackburn dismiss all of the women. GOP already has a short bench of female statewide pols. Flake and Corker would be better bets in those states.
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Gee whiz that's swell! The Playboy bunny has been exposed to all the same sex partners of Trump and the porn starlet.
bearister
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Being a moral bankrupt is not disqualifying when it comes to providing good leadership. See JFK and Bill Clinton. tRump's fundamental problem is that he is possessed of the Triple Crown: Moral Bankrupt. F*ck*ng moron. Traitor.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/17/donald-trump-hr-mcmaster-russia-election-meddling-investigation?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other





https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/17/putins-chef-a-troll-farm-and-russias-plot-to-hijack-us-democracy?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/08/donald-trump-russia-investigation-key-questions-latest-news-collusion-timeline?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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bearister said:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/17/donald-trump-hr-mcmaster-russia-election-meddling-investigation?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


Always fluid, but McMaster is the new leader on Trump's ****list. Noses out Rosenstein, Sessions, Kelly, and Tillerson. Putin is still Trump's sweet baboo.
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BearChemist said:

tequila4kapp said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
You understand the real implications behind Trump's tweets? Last time I checked WH needs more talents like you.
Thanks for the personal attack. Stay classy.

The real implications behind Trump's tweets? You mean that he can't communicate through the traditional means because the media is grotesquely biased against him so he bypasses them? Yep, I'm aware.

To the larger point, so for there isn't a scintilla of evidence of collusion by Trump with the Russians. It has been proven beyond beyond doubt that Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia. Those are the facts, so far. But hate on...
dajo9
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Hillary and the DNC conspired to do what with Russia?
mikecohen
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tequila4kapp said:

BearChemist said:

tequila4kapp said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
You understand the real implications behind Trump's tweets? Last time I checked WH needs more talents like you.
Thanks for the personal attack. Stay classy.

The real implications behind Trump's tweets? You mean that he can't communicate through the traditional means because the media is grotesquely biased against him so he bypasses them? Yep, I'm aware.

To the larger point, so for there isn't a scintilla of evidence of collusion by Trump with the Russians. It has been proven beyond beyond doubt that Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia. Those are the facts, so far. But hate on...
Details/Specifics please about Hillary and the DNC conspiring with Russia.
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If HRC conspired with the Russians to win the election, they sure F'd her. If she conspired with Russians to get the goods on tTrump those would have been anti Putin Russians who leaked Putin's blackmail material and they have all ended up in aqueducts with their hands and feet cut off by now. If he is referencing the uranium deal that was debunked as legless bullsh@t long ago. Do you reckon tRump is aware that conviction under the treason statute is potentially a capital crime?
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tequila4kapp said:

BearChemist said:

tequila4kapp said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
You understand the real implications behind Trump's tweets? Last time I checked WH needs more talents like you.
Thanks for the personal attack. Stay classy.

The real implications behind Trump's tweets? You mean that he can't communicate through the traditional means because the media is grotesquely biased against him so he bypasses them? Yep, I'm aware.

To the larger point, so for there isn't a scintilla of evidence of collusion by Trump with the Russians. It has been proven beyond beyond doubt that Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia. Those are the facts, so far. But hate on...
I'm sorry, did I hurt your feeling? I was just suggesting you a job. This is occurring at WH weekly if not daily: Trump tweets something, the staff scramble to give it a positive spin, then these fine people would get burnt by their boss again. So if you really can read Trump's mind and is willing to advocate for him, you can definitely find a position.

Be strong, not like a snowflake.
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tequila4kapp said:

BearChemist said:

tequila4kapp said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
You understand the real implications behind Trump's tweets? Last time I checked WH needs more talents like you.
Thanks for the personal attack. Stay classy.

The real implications behind Trump's tweets? You mean that he can't communicate through the traditional means because the media is grotesquely biased against him so he bypasses them? Yep, I'm aware.

To the larger point, so for there isn't a scintilla of evidence of collusion by Trump with the Russians. It has been proven beyond beyond doubt that Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia. Those are the facts, so far. But hate on...
I sense you don't go broad on your media sources.
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Our president shows yet again that he is absolute scum:

graguna
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tequila4kapp said:

BearChemist said:

tequila4kapp said:

dajo9 said:

This "hoax" now has 18 indictments and 4 guilty pleas by my count. That's some hoax.
You don't think he was referring to the Trump/Russia collusion charges (HRC/Russia collusion is already established)?
You understand the real implications behind Trump's tweets? Last time I checked WH needs more talents like you.
Thanks for the personal attack. Stay classy.

The real implications behind Trump's tweets? You mean that he can't communicate through the traditional means because the media is grotesquely biased against him so he bypasses them? Yep, I'm aware.

To the larger point, so for there isn't a scintilla of evidence of collusion by Trump with the Russians. It has been proven beyond beyond doubt that Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia. Those are the facts, so far. But hate on...
how much tequila do you have to drink to get trump-goggles?
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It would have been different if the shooter was named Muhammad.
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