bearister said:

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https://www.axios.com/north-korea-says-it-will-freeze-nuke-and-missile-tests-1524261998-e9e79469-fafb-4cb6-b336-2726ceaaa25b.html

tRump 2020! MAGA! tRump Nobel Peace Prize!

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Anarchistbear said:

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" The 2019 Nobel Peace Prize- Donald J Trump and Little Rocket Man."

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sycasey said:

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bearister said:

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https://www.axios.com/north-korea-says-it-will-freeze-nuke-and-missile-tests-1524261998-e9e79469-fafb-4cb6-b336-2726ceaaa25b.html

tRump 2020! MAGA! tRump Nobel Peace Prize!

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Good news, assuming we can trust what North Korea says.

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bearister said:

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Joe diGenova was interviewed on The Circus. He stated that starting two years ago that the Deep State has been framing Donald tRump. John failed to ask Joe the $64,000 question: How does George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Richard Pinedo, and Alex van der Zwaag all pleading guilty in connection with the Russian investigation fit into the Deep State conspiracy narrative? Can someone here field the question? I assume Fox News has talking points on this issue.

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mikecohen said:

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bearister said:

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Joe diGenova was interviewed on The Circus. He stated that starting two years ago that the Deep State has been framing Donald tRump. John failed to ask Joe the $64,000 question: How does George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Richard Pinedo, and Alex van der Zwaag all pleading guilty in connection with the Russian investigation fit into the Deep State conspiracy narrative? Can someone here field the question? I assume Fox News has talking points on this issue.

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Trying to get inside the Trumpist mindset: If the FBI decides to seriously investigate ANYBODY, they could find SOMETHING to charge; and, with people who have been in power, such opportunities grow; AND, if they're found out, their vulnerability to this form of legal blackmail increases, but does not necessarily add to, or prove, the allegations of conspiracy with Russia.

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bearister said:

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Joe diGenova was interviewed on The Circus. He stated that starting two years ago that the Deep State has been framing Donald tRump. John failed to ask Joe the $64,000 question: How does George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Richard Pinedo, and Alex van der Zwaag all pleading guilty in connection with the Russian investigation fit into the Deep State conspiracy narrative? Can someone here field the question? I assume Fox News has talking points on this issue.

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blungld said:

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.....half the country thinks might (power/wealth/status) makes right....

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Not familiar with that error, but definitely try copying your text before trying again in case the error happens again. If you tried a quote reply, maybe try a regular reply or new post reply instead?

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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I tried to post a response, but was barred, with a red phrase (YOUR FORUM CODE IS INVALID). What does that mean?

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Another Bear said:

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

Quote:

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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I tried to post a response, but was barred, with a red phrase (YOUR FORUM CODE IS INVALID). What does that mean?

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On here it was barred, or that article's site? That's weird if it's here.

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

Quote:

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

Quote:

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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I tried to post a response, but was barred, with a red phrase (YOUR FORUM CODE IS INVALID). What does that mean?

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On here it was barred, or that article's site? That's weird if it's here.

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It was on here

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

Quote:

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

Quote:

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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I tried to post a response, but was barred, with a red phrase (YOUR FORUM CODE IS INVALID). What does that mean?

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On here it was barred, or that article's site? That's weird if it's here.

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It was on here

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Another Bear said:

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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mikecohen said:

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

Quote:

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

Quote:

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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I tried to post a response, but was barred, with a red phrase (YOUR FORUM CODE IS INVALID). What does that mean?

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On here it was barred, or that article's site? That's weird if it's here.

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It was on here

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Okay I experienced that just now on the "scrotum" thread. If you have a banned word in a link, you could get "YOUR FORUM CODE IS INVALID" and thus reject the post.

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Another Bear said:

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Not staff. I think there's a tech talk section.

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Another Bear said:

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Not staff. I think there's a tech talk section.

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AB staff? The way he talks **** about Trump? Hehe.

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Another Bear said:

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Not staff. I think there's a tech talk section.

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AB staff? The way he talks **** about Trump? Hehe.

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mikecohen said:

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Another Bear said:

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Not staff. I think there's a tech talk section.

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AB staff? The way he talks **** about Trump? Hehe.

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Seriously? So you think this was an expression of pique on the part of the Bear Insider staff because they are offended by my criticisms of Trump? Maybe I misunderstand. It's been known to happen.

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Another Bear said:

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Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: "The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor"

Quote:

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Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment and President Nancy Pelos

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This is a good read. The guy knows Trump. Also a full podcast (interview starts at 28:30): Podcast

Quote:

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You have studied and written about Donald Trump for three decades. What does the public need to know about his background, to understand his behavior as president?

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running *****houses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

I think it is very important for religious Americans to know that Donald Trump says that his personal philosophy of life is revenge. He has called anyone who turns the other cheek -- which is a fundamental teaching of Christ in the Sermon on the Mount -- a fool, an idiot or a schmuck. Trump is a man who says things that are absolutely contrary to the teachings of the New Testament. He also denigrates Christians. Yet you see all of these ministers endorsing him.

I've followed Donald for 30 years. I don't see any evidence that he has changed, and he certainly hasn't repented, which is a fundamental Christian obligation.

He is a racist through and through. He has been found in formal judicial proceedings to discriminate against nonwhites in rentals and employment.

It's important to understand that Trump is aggressively anti-Christian, despite claiming to be one. He is bluntly a racist. Most importantly, he is literally ignorant about almost everything.

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This past weekend Mr. Johnston appeared on a CNN BookTV Panel, from USC, along with two other Trump denigrators; and what happened afterwards was an eye-opener.

The Trump supporters callers-in were so outraged (at the lack of "balance") that CNN turned over the entire listener comment section to Trump supporters, who, universally, had not one substantive thing to say in support of their fervent to the end support for their hero, which gave me the idea that the clear way to start a dialogue that could put an end to this madness is simply to call them out at every turn, simply by asking them for the specifics of what they supported and approved of what he has done and/or wants and/or proposes to do, because, to the extent they take the bait (and such perfectly unobjectionable questions could eventually force them to), what will come out of their mouths will be one of two things:
(1) Truly ugly racism, or
(2) complete fabrications with absolutely no basis in reason, because, although there is a true font of legitimate political energy at their backs (i.e., both the economic abandonment and cultural denigration of their class) they (as well as Trump) have no clue as to any truly possible and effective fix to those negatives in their lives.

Really, the actual policies that would help them are:

A. (even just) the New Deal programs (or their modern equivalents, added to better ways of actuating such programs that have hopefully developed over time), which big money (in the form both of the donors the Democrats need in order to compete nationally, and the Republican Party itself, already, bought and paid for, lock, stock and barrel, by big money) has effectively prevented them from doing, other than to a crippled extent

[keep the following in mind: When Obama took office, there were at least three Nobel Prize economists he could have appointed Treasury Secretary, whom he does not appear to have even considered, in favor of Larry Summers, who not only was substantially to the right of all of them, and, as much out of lack of imagination as anything else, did not stray much from the desires of Wall Street (as did the Clinton people when they allowed the repeal of Glass-Steagall without anything resembling any kind of reasonable replacement for its function - the absence of which led directly, almost without passing Go, to the recent Great Recession, and the radical upward migration of wealth/power/opportunity to a degree not seen since the fall of Feudalism], and

B. the humanistic spirit that unites Democrats (but which the Republicans have managed to Balkanize - even though the Democrats themselves do not, because the different previously disadvantaged groups that Democratic policies have helped lift up (to the extent possible in this poisonous political atmosphere created by Lee Atwater and his progeny) do NOT fight each other for bigger pieces of the pie (except in Chicago, at least through the reign of Daley the Younger), but (as largely in California) work together.

Something else that became clear is what I heard someone say in a program about Fox News. What I described above, about the Trump supporters' being outraged at the lack of balance of the Johnston panel is straight from Fox News, which created its whole "Fair and Balanced" (and False Equivalency) shtick from that grass-roots frustration from the witches' brew of social conservatism / economic deprivation / and cultural denigration that was left after the democrats could no longer figure out a way to implement the Four Freedoms and governmental programs that massively allowed everybody (except racial minorities) to rise into the middle class after WWII, and which made Ike's economic path so extraordinarily easy in the 1950s.

So what Fox did was to posit a "balance", or opposing view, to whatever reasonable proposition (e.g., universal healthcare, regulation of tobacco) being proposed politically; and it didn't matter if the opposing view actually made sense (any more than anything Hannity ever says ever makes any sense) as long as it was expressed in the cultural tones of the above-described audience (with the real, essentially prejudiced, anachronistic bases being expressed in dog-whistles), and with lots of attitude (which Southerners of all stripes, from Blues Singers to Senator Helms, are good at, and we all learn cultural norms from the way they talk).

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bearister said:

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Well played, mikecohen, well played!





*I think that may be Ward Cleaver in the center of the second row.

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