oski003;842854857 said:
wow, tell us how you really feel. How about this... A corporation owns 1,000 stores that each profit $30,000. That's 30,000,000 in profit that the owners make and the people running it are paid well, etc... A business owner owns and runs three stores that make $30,000 each. Liberals make laws that severely impact both groups so that their profit gets cut in half with increases taxes, fees, minimum wage increases, health care costs, and legislation that increases vulnerability to lawsuits (in defense of the common worker), etc... Store owner works 80 hours a week making $45,000 grand a year in profit. Liberal in ivory tower thinks, "Well, a smarter store owner would profit more." Liberals only see big evil corporations. On top on that, there is too much waste in government. See Bureaucratic costs at U.C. edited to add that Republicans do give their money to worthy causes. They just don't like to give a large portion of it to the government.
I disagree with traditional conservative values (individualism, smaller government, less regulation, etc), but at least its a reasonable stance to have. Its something that two people could reasonably disagree about. Traditional conservatism, while I disagree with it, I don't absolutely abhor it. Its not inherently immoral.
But that is not what the Republican Party stands for anymore. Its not what Trump stands for. And its not what his base stands for.
If Trump were just a traditional conservative, I'd be more or less fine with it, and the country would probably be more or less fine with it. If Trump were a traditional conservative, he'd probably receive a lot less pushback from pissed off voters (and pissed off democrats on the hill), and he'd be able to pass all the legislation that he wanted. I think most traditional conservatives would agree that, ideally, they would have a different type of conservative in the oval office. right?
But its unclear whether a traditional conservative can now get elected president in this day and age. So you needed to add some populist rhetoric, create some fear and nationalism, protectionist, and jingoism etc to get the Trump base out to vote. So the GOP essentially made a deal with the devil so they can control the Executive Branch.
What I don't get from traditional conservative is how they just seem ok with this new paradigm. I mean, to get some of the things you want (like tax reform, etc) you're willing to sell off democracy? I mean, I guess, at least initially, I could see why traditional conservatives would vote for Trump. But why are they still defending Trump now? At what point do you say, enough is enough? At what point is there a line crossed that your own morality urges you to push back?
And forget about morals. How about your own self interest? At what point does it become in your parties best interest to push back on Trump? What I don't get is why you would sacrifice the long term health of the Republican party for short term goals. Why label yourself the anti-immigrant, anti LGBT, anti minority party? Especially when this countries' demographics will look strikingly different 20 years from now. Do traditional conservatives really believe that the Republican Party is going to have long term health after Trump?
